I had decided to stay out of this one but this really has gone on too long so what the h3ll, I will throw out my 2 cents....
As Bob stated in another thread, we are friends and I too enjoy my visits with him, I have learned a lot from him. The thread that caused the "banning" just got out of hand, when personal, private issues came out, it was time to shut it down. I was disappointed that a simple disagreement had to get ugly, I think both are better than that.
I could be wrong, It's happened before, but I think that the main reason that this thread was started was because Bob thought that he was the only one who was banned and he did not think that was right. It turns out that both parties were banned so the right thing, the fair thing, was done.
All of this other BS going on here is just that..BS!
I don't alway agree with Paul, but sometime I do, I usually do agree with Whynot, but do not agree with the way that he conveys his points. If both of them left, and others, the grumble would not be the same, and that would be a sad thing.
I always tell my salespeople to make sure they do not take anything that a customer says personal, I say the same about online forums, if everyone agreed, the world would be boring. Sometimes, if you really listen to others you may realize that you were wrong. People read way to much into what is said and let it bother them. I know, I have done the same.
This thread, and others, has become personal to people who have nothing to do with the original subject. Bob did not have anything bad to say about being banned, he just questioned the fairness of the banning, and it was answered, that should have been the end of the thread.
Ignore lists, private forums, and any other things like them are not needed, if you do not like what you are reading, STOP READING!!!! If you do not like the way the Grumble is moderated, STOP GRUMBLING!
Life goes on, do something more constructive with your lives than try to figure out a conspiracy theory within the moderators of the Grumble!
I too am done with the Grumble.
For today