And, Cliff, here’s the capacity clincher: it doesn’t cost much in the framing industry to add capacity. A really good double mitre saw costs around $15000 and a light industrial v nailer around $12,000. Those two alone would more than quadruple production capacity for $27,000. William’s figures must have a much higher cost. Before the current troubles we made around 30 to 40 frames a day and no one was overworked. During Christmas rushes, the same staff has done 100 frames a day and still weren’t at full capacity. Where there is more capacity than demand, something is out of whack.