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40 x 60 3/16" Larson Juhl Acid-Free White Foamboard LAF40

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
40 x 60 3/16" Larson Juhl Acid-Free White Foamboard LAF40.

Have any of you used this stuff and if you have, can you recommend it?

The reason I ask is it is significantly cheaper than the usual.

40 x 60 3/16" Bainbridge Acid-Free White Foamboard is $157.00 a box.

This stuff is $102.00 a box. I've never seen 40x60 AF this cheap. And its a full box of 25 sheets.

For those of you that by the 32x40 boxes its $54.25 a box as opposed to Bainbridge at $78.25 a box.

Is this too good to be true? What's the catch?
 
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FramerCat

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
LJ's latest email says that they are addressing complaints about the product. I haven't used the product in a very long time because I was one of the complainers. Back then it was extremely wavy and no good at all for anything you wanted to be flat. It might be better now but I haven't risked it yet.

Ed
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
And this is, again, why we need theG. Thanks again Mike.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Haven't tried this brand, but for the sake of clarity, here's the text from their e-mail:

We’ve heard your frustrations with quality and stockouts on the Larson-Juhl Acid-Free Foamboard. In response, we’ve changed suppliers to better serve your needs and uphold our commitment to quality. Our foam will continue to provide the benefits you enjoy such as durability, easily cut, ability to be custom shaped by router, knife, or die just with more reliable service.
 

tedh

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Tried a case of the cheap stuff. Never again.
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
Tried a case of the cheap stuff. Never again.
Strike 2. I don't think I'll wait for strike 3. I'll stick with the Bainbridge.
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I've used it and though I don't find it at good as Bainbridge (far from it) I haven't found it to be as bad as what Framer Cat or Tedh said, they may have gotten some really bad sheets. I suppose it depends upon what you want to use it on but I did use it as a backer board and filler and it worked ok. For the price it is acceptable for filler just don't try using it for drymounting and be selective what part of the board you use for backer. I did go through a case and wouldn't have ordered it again but since they did change suppliers I am definitely going to check it out again - the price is really good.
 
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tedh

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Let us know if it works out.
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
Interesting discussion.
I just wonder....
Is it really worth it to try to save $1.00 a sheet on a 32" x 40" or $2.00 a sheet on a 40" x 60" piece of AFFC to try to use an inferior product?
(we also use 48" x 96")
We sell AFFC as an upgrade and a conservation product.

I know what we charge retail for these items and frankly, why bother messing around with something for a few pennies that doesn't measure up?:shrug:
Just my opinion.
 
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Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Both Kool Tack and Mount Cor use foam boards that are more-dense than most of the usual foam boards from framing distributors. Maybe it would be helpful to ask them what brands they prefer.
 

wpfay

Angry Badger
I have used the LJ product for support and filler off and on for a while. The initial product was pretty bad as mentioned, but the second incarnation cut nicely and was as flat as any I have used. Any of the FC products will bow. The current issue is a supply chain problem from what I can tell.

Neil has a point, but when you order 4 or 5 mixed boxes at a time the savings over name brand is more evident.

Whenever my LJ rep shows me a new product and I am skeptical, he reminds me that you can return unused product to LJ for a refund.
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Is it really worth it to try to save $1.00 a sheet on a 32" x 40" or $2.00 a sheet on a 40" x 60" piece of AFFC to try to use an inferior product?
In my opinion it is worth it to save a $1.00 a sheet - $25.00 a box, you do the math over a year. Why would I want to use Bainbridge as a filler if it does exactly the same job as LJ's product as a filler. If the LJ's new FC is as good as they are claiming I will use LJ's new AFFC in a heart beat to save the money. Like I said, I will try LJ's new product and if it is of equal or near equal to Bainbridge I will definitely purchase it but if it isn't as good then I will only purchase it to use as a filler.
 

Sonny

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
If it is from Asia do you really know what you are getting quality wise?? When I tried to purchase from Asia years ago, I found they showed me a race horse and delivered a donkey.
 

RParrish

PFG, Picture Framing God
I ordered a box recently, 32x40 but LJ was out of stock and sent me Bainbridge instead. For the same price. Quite impressed with that, but I have yet to test out the LJ brand. Next time!
This happened to me also, when I realized it, I ordered 6 cases of LJ Foam core and got the Bainbridge as a replacement, good times.
 

alacrity8

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
A few years back we tried a case.
I think that it was a different supplier than the one they are now switching from.
All I remember is thinking "Never Again"

Brian
 

KPF

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I've been using the 3/16" and 1/8" over the past week.

I use 1/8" to dry mount 4-ply mat board to to make spacers. It's a bit thinner than the Gilman Bros I'm used to.
Definitely not a great product.

I probably won't order it again.
 
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