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Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by Ray Bragg, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Ray Bragg

    Ray Bragg CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    For some reason (i quess I am just fealing old this morning) I was wondering what the average age of framers is. Are we basically an group of older farts or Middle age want a bes, or maybe even young whipper snappers. Are we attacting new blood into our ranks or are we a dieing trade.
     
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  2. couture's gallery

    couture's gallery PFG, Picture Framing God

    My average age is 68, and probably framing will become a dying art some day...just like sign painting did when computres and vinyl took over that industry.....there about 10 true brush lettering artists left in Florida ( I'm one of them) and maybe the day of true professional picture framer will become extinct also, but the "trade" will continue in some form if traditional art survives.
     
  3. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I see a lot of young framers that work at or have worked at the BB's lately. Right now there is not a lot of room for young framers at the independant shops because of cutbacks in employees. I think that several years from now when the economy begins to pick back up many of the shops will once again be hiring younger framers.
     
  4. ArtFreak27

    ArtFreak27 CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    31 year old wanna be here!:p

    Not quite middle aged yet, but it looms ever closer
     
  5. simplymatted

    simplymatted SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Ill be honest here I am uh........carp I forgot again. Be right back, where is my drivers license? Sigh left it at home again. Ill let you know tomorrow.
     
  6. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I am 64. Do you still love me?
     
  7. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Yes, you sweet young thing. I'm 67. :p
     
  8. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

  9. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I'm cruisin' at the speed limit... 55.

    If I follow my grandfather's footsteps I have another 30 years left to frame.

    :thumbsup:
     
  10. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Age......as in how it has aged us being in this biz? ;)

    I'm 32......and have been doing this for 13 years....... :popc:

    Which annoys the KRAP outa me when I go to trade shows....and no one talks to me...... but thats a whole other thread..... :bdh:
     
  11. janetj1968

    janetj1968 PFG, Picture Framing God

    42..and I've been in it for 22 years.
     
  12. auntiesarahjayne

    auntiesarahjayne MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I am 37 years old. I have been framing for 15 years.
     
  13. MICHELLE ANDERSON

    MICHELLE ANDERSON SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Approaching 46 and been in this since I was 18. eeecckk. that seems like a long time.
     
  14. YooperFramer

    YooperFramer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I'm 38 and have been framing since 19.
    I feeel older than I am .lol
     
  15. KPF

    KPF CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I'm 35.
    Started framing when I was 19.

    It's like mafia. Once you're in...
     
  16. RParrish

    RParrish PFG, Picture Framing God

    No way! You are the youngest looking 45 year old ever then! I am getting there...nuff said
     
  17. Steph

    Steph SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I'm 44 and have been framing 23 years. I do not think we are attracting young people into this trade. It would be a fair guess that if you see young people working at a BB, or anywhere for that matter, they are mostly likely being paid minimum wage. (IMO that'crappy...but it is business.)

    This industry needs more than attracting young people. We all are very aware of how this industry has changed and shrunk. This started well before the current economic situation. Couture's is right. We are the hand painted sign makers, the cobbler, the custom "anything".

    Will we become extinct? I don't think so. But I do think we are going to see a continued decrease in the number shops. A small percentage will survive.

    I'm not trying to be fatalistic, just realistic. Personally I am happy to be closing. But it's not dead for me. I am keeping a few key pieces of equipment. I'll be framing in some form down the road. But we do need to be realistic about the future.

    I hope many hang on. I hope many are successful, and I really hope I am proven wrong.
     
  18. evartpat

    evartpat PFG, Picture Framing God

    51

    30 years of insani....I mean framing...:)p)... come January.

    I may not see 31 years though....
     
  19. Ylva

    Ylva SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Pat...that last bit has me worried.....
     
  20. Masterpiece

    Masterpiece CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I'm 29 and have been in business for myself since age 20 — Framing since age 16.

    The framing industry (in my opinion) will become a gold mine for younger generation framers. As shops continue to close and older generation shop owners retire, opportunity for business will increase.

    The industry will evolve. There will still be a demand for framing family photos and shadowboxing sentimental items. However, I believe framers will have to adapt and offer new services that cater to technology — Services that might include digital printing and framing screen art (TVs and digital photo albums). Photo restoration will also be a great added service to frameshops of the future. Family photos that get passed down from older generations will require restoration and still need to be framed.
     
  21. wpfay

    wpfay Angry Badger

    57, started in 1973, and went full time in Jan., 1979. No end in sight.
     
  22. Twin2

    Twin2 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I'm 48 and I've been framing for almost 13 years.
     
  23. evartpat

    evartpat PFG, Picture Framing God

    Don't worry Ylva!! I just mean I may not be in the industry much longer...:)

    I am too full of pi## and vinegar not to stick around...:p
     
  24. loganframer

    loganframer True Grumbler

    36 and still climbing here. Framing for 11 years.
     
  25. Ylva

    Ylva SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    'phew' = sigh of relief!

    As long as you stay here on the G!!!!

    Oh, and I'm 46 and opened my frameshop over 2 years ago and will probably frame til death....
     
  26. wvframer

    wvframer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I am 56 & framing since 1981, with my own business since 1995. Most of the frame shop owners I know within a half day's drive of me are 8-10 years older than me, and many earned a retirement elsewhere before opening.

    I think as more owners reach retirement age, they will be tempted to pack it in if profits are marginal.

    This should open up opportunities for younger folks even though all the news suggests that the business in contracting.

    It would be enlightening to see a statistically valid survey of the average age of framers.
     
  27. johnny

    johnny SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    43, framing for a paycheck since 16
     
  28. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I'm 56. Started framing in 1972. Opened my business in 1977.
    :cool: Rick
     
  29. HangingAroundHoover

    HangingAroundHoover MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I'll be celebrating my big 4 0 in a few days. I've been framing since '89. :)
     
  30. mik

    mik SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    54 and framing for over 24. My how the time flies when we're having fun!
     
  31. evartpat

    evartpat PFG, Picture Framing God

    So...when is the big day?? Are you going to let us celebrate your official "Cresting of the Hill" into your forties...:p
     
  32. HangingAroundHoover

    HangingAroundHoover MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    On the square root of 441 :thumbsup:
     
  33. RoboFramer

    RoboFramer PFG, Picture Framing God

    40o* and framing for 16 years, but only properly since I joined TFG:eek:.

    *40 plus fifteenth letter of the alphabet (lower case) = 55 (Capital 'O' would be 81!)
     
  34. David N Waldmann

    David N Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    You English blokes sure do have strange ways of counting. And I thought you gave up the pounds/pence system because the decimal system made sense. Now I have to wonder...
    :p
     
  35. framelady64

    framelady64 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Im 46 and been framing since I was 23.
     
  36. YooperFramer

    YooperFramer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    All this info might make a fun page in our "framers" magazines!
    i love reading how long people have been framing for and at what age started.
     
  37. Framing Goddess

    Framing Goddess SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Big 5-0, I am just shy of framing (full-time, baby!) for thirty years; 23 action packed years as a business owner.

    Only 20 more years to go until retirement! Woohoo.

    I see lots of youngsters in and wanting to be in this business.

    edie the everyonelooksyoungtome goddess:cry:
     
  38. TomDrama

    TomDrama CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I'm 58, have been framing for 34 years. Sheesh! But the 2 employees are in their 20's, and one has been framing about 12 years.
     
  39. mona

    mona CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    54 framing for 20 years I can't be that old must be a typo
     
  40. FrameMakers

    FrameMakers PFG, Picture Framing God

  41. FrameMakers

    FrameMakers PFG, Picture Framing God

    I am 45 and have been framing for 28 years and owner for 20 of those.

    Edie, I would have never guessed that you were older then me.
     
  42. RoboFramer

    RoboFramer PFG, Picture Framing God

    Always be forty-something

    40j

    40r

    40n
     
  43. Frame Maker SA

    Frame Maker SA CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    34 Started framing in 1999.
     
  44. Julie Walsh

    Julie Walsh MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I'm 54 and have owned my shop for 4 1/2 years; been framing for 5 years
     
  45. Framing Goddess

    Framing Goddess SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Why, thank you!:eek:
     
  46. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I should have mentioned that IO am 64 and framing since 1969. Plan on retiring when I am 75 or so.

    About a year before that I will seek a young framer to move to Buffalo, assist me in my dotage and then I will give them the place, lock, stock and Keeton Kutter.
     
  47. Karen

    Karen CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I'm 43 and have been framing for 16 years. Owner of my own frame shop for 5 years.
     
  48. FrameMakers

    FrameMakers PFG, Picture Framing God

    That's just mean. :)
     
  49. D_Derbonne

    D_Derbonne PFG, Picture Framing God

    I'm 56 and have been framing for 12 years.
    I've owned my business since 2001. It's not the same business I purchased.
    Framing is only part of it now but it's still the part that pays most of the bills.
     
  50. Jeannie Franklin CPF

    Jeannie Franklin CPF CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Nov. 1st I started by 37th year in business. Framing started as a sideline and developed into all we do now (except sell some art too). I am 59 years old, almost fresh out of college when I started. And, I have enjoyed 99% of the years that have gone by.
     
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