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Ray Bragg

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
For some reason (i quess I am just fealing old this morning) I was wondering what the average age of framers is. Are we basically an group of older farts or Middle age want a bes, or maybe even young whipper snappers. Are we attacting new blood into our ranks or are we a dieing trade.
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couture's gallery

PFG, Picture Framing God
My average age is 68, and probably framing will become a dying art some day...just like sign painting did when computres and vinyl took over that industry.....there about 10 true brush lettering artists left in Florida ( I'm one of them) and maybe the day of true professional picture framer will become extinct also, but the "trade" will continue in some form if traditional art survives.

Jeff Rodier

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I see a lot of young framers that work at or have worked at the BB's lately. Right now there is not a lot of room for young framers at the independant shops because of cutbacks in employees. I think that several years from now when the economy begins to pick back up many of the shops will once again be hiring younger framers.


SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Ill be honest here I am uh........carp I forgot again. Be right back, where is my drivers license? Sigh left it at home again. Ill let you know tomorrow.


SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I'm cruisin' at the speed limit... 55.

If I follow my grandfather's footsteps I have another 30 years left to frame.



SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Age......as in how it has aged us being in this biz? ;)

I'm 32......and have been doing this for 13 years....... :popc:

Which annoys the KRAP outa me when I go to trade shows....and no one talks to me...... but thats a whole other thread..... :bdh:


CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I'm 35.
Started framing when I was 19.

It's like mafia. Once you're in...


PFG, Picture Framing God
Approaching 46 and been in this since I was 18. eeecckk. that seems like a long time.
No way! You are the youngest looking 45 year old ever then! I am getting there...nuff said


SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I'm 44 and have been framing 23 years. I do not think we are attracting young people into this trade. It would be a fair guess that if you see young people working at a BB, or anywhere for that matter, they are mostly likely being paid minimum wage. (IMO that'crappy...but it is business.)

This industry needs more than attracting young people. We all are very aware of how this industry has changed and shrunk. This started well before the current economic situation. Couture's is right. We are the hand painted sign makers, the cobbler, the custom "anything".

Will we become extinct? I don't think so. But I do think we are going to see a continued decrease in the number shops. A small percentage will survive.

I'm not trying to be fatalistic, just realistic. Personally I am happy to be closing. But it's not dead for me. I am keeping a few key pieces of equipment. I'll be framing in some form down the road. But we do need to be realistic about the future.

I hope many hang on. I hope many are successful, and I really hope I am proven wrong.


CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I'm 29 and have been in business for myself since age 20 — Framing since age 16.

The framing industry (in my opinion) will become a gold mine for younger generation framers. As shops continue to close and older generation shop owners retire, opportunity for business will increase.

The industry will evolve. There will still be a demand for framing family photos and shadowboxing sentimental items. However, I believe framers will have to adapt and offer new services that cater to technology — Services that might include digital printing and framing screen art (TVs and digital photo albums). Photo restoration will also be a great added service to frameshops of the future. Family photos that get passed down from older generations will require restoration and still need to be framed.


Angry Badger
57, started in 1973, and went full time in Jan., 1979. No end in sight.


SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I'm 48 and I've been framing for almost 13 years.


MGF, Master Grumble Framer
I am 56 & framing since 1981, with my own business since 1995. Most of the frame shop owners I know within a half day's drive of me are 8-10 years older than me, and many earned a retirement elsewhere before opening.

I think as more owners reach retirement age, they will be tempted to pack it in if profits are marginal.

This should open up opportunities for younger folks even though all the news suggests that the business in contracting.

It would be enlightening to see a statistically valid survey of the average age of framers.


PFG, Picture Framing God
40o* and framing for 16 years, but only properly since I joined TFG:eek:.

*40 plus fifteenth letter of the alphabet (lower case) = 55 (Capital 'O' would be 81!)

David N Waldmann

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
*40 plus fifteenth letter of the alphabet (lower case) = 55 (Capital 'O' would be 81!)
You English blokes sure do have strange ways of counting. And I thought you gave up the pounds/pence system because the decimal system made sense. Now I have to wonder...


MGF, Master Grumble Framer
All this info might make a fun page in our "framers" magazines!
i love reading how long people have been framing for and at what age started.

Framing Goddess

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Big 5-0, I am just shy of framing (full-time, baby!) for thirty years; 23 action packed years as a business owner.

Only 20 more years to go until retirement! Woohoo.

I see lots of youngsters in and wanting to be in this business.

edie the everyonelooksyoungtome goddess:cry:


PFG, Picture Framing God
I am 45 and have been framing for 28 years and owner for 20 of those.

Edie, I would have never guessed that you were older then me.

Julie Walsh

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
I'm 54 and have owned my shop for 4 1/2 years; been framing for 5 years


SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I should have mentioned that IO am 64 and framing since 1969. Plan on retiring when I am 75 or so.

About a year before that I will seek a young framer to move to Buffalo, assist me in my dotage and then I will give them the place, lock, stock and Keeton Kutter.


CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I'm 43 and have been framing for 16 years. Owner of my own frame shop for 5 years.


PFG, Picture Framing God
About a year before that I will seek a young framer to move to Buffalo, assist me in my dotage and then I will give them the place, lock, stock and Keeton Kutter.
That's just mean. :)


PFG, Picture Framing God
I'm 56 and have been framing for 12 years.
I've owned my business since 2001. It's not the same business I purchased.
Framing is only part of it now but it's still the part that pays most of the bills.

Jeannie Franklin CPF

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
Nov. 1st I started by 37th year in business. Framing started as a sideline and developed into all we do now (except sell some art too). I am 59 years old, almost fresh out of college when I started. And, I have enjoyed 99% of the years that have gone by.
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