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Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by Ray Bragg, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I'm 48 and started framing in 1979.
  2. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    One of our framers on staff is 22 years old. He's been on board for three years. His primary responsibility is wrapping fabric liners... seamless.

    We figured up how many liners he has wrapped in the last three years... about 8000!!!

    I kid you not!

    Most everything we frame for consignment to other galleries has at least a single seamless liner... many have double wrapped liners... often with double fillets too.

    This "kid" rocks!!!
  3. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Hey Mar! I'm still a young Buck!

    Buffalo is a nice town.

  4. Reenie

    Reenie True Grumbler

    44, started framing at 18. Can't seem to get my kids interested at all though!
  5. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Maureen... do you have a CMC? They might latch on to that!

    Kid's are so techno based. Sad for our industry. Hopefully as they age they will understand their history and appreciate their past.
  6. Candy

    Candy SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I was a late bloomer. Started framing at 38 and have been at it for 22 years.
  7. Grey Owl

    Grey Owl SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Wow, you certainly look and act much younger. And you can hold your margaritas and eat your Mexican food like most 30 year olds.

    For me, I will be celebrating my 25th anniversary of my 43rd birthday next February.

    As my mother-in-law's doctor says "You have to be tough to get to be old,"
  8. JWB9999999

    JWB9999999 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Finally someone with stats closer to mine.

    42 years old. Framing for 4.5 years. Last week was my 4th anniversary of owning my own shop.
  9. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Happy Anniversay, John of the Nines! :thumbsup:

    I'm 44, and have worked in frame shops since February
    of 1992. Was at the first one for seven years, and this
    one for eleven. So poor that I'll miss my own funeral
    because I'll still be at work, but there's so much about
    the job that suits me. I love the constant variety of artwork
    and people, the satisfaction of making customers happy
    and the way that it allows me to keep several plates
    spinning at once.

    Yes, I do feel respected and appreciated (by the customers).
    And I like being able to see the results of what I've
    done. Not like with some endless project that's all just
    paperwork and no tangible results.
  10. rodmurrow

    rodmurrow CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I'm 61 and have been framing only a year (we opened our shop on Dec. 1, 2009).
  11. Pangolin

    Pangolin SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I'm 31 and have been framing on and off for about 10 years. Owned my shop for three.

    And I consider myself a young whippersnapper! (Being "old" is just a mental thing!)
  12. Reenie

    Reenie True Grumbler

    Maureen... do you have a CMC? They might latch on to that!

    Kid's are so techno based. Sad for our industry. Hopefully as they age they will understand their history and appreciate their past.

    Yes, got a CMC this year and have to say, that is the ONE thing all the kids like! Even the little guy likes to watch it in action...his friends think the shop is "cool".
  13. Framehouse Boutique

    Framehouse Boutique CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    34 years old. 2.5 years experience. I bought the business with 0 framing experience.
  14. rhop

    rhop SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I am 60. Spent thirty years in the Army. Retired in 1999 and opened our shop the same year.

    Started framing in my spare time in 1980. Yes, you do have some spare time in the Army when not deployed somewhere. :icon21:
  15. nikfrz

    nikfrz SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Not gonna tell ya my age. I'm a female, ya know! But I'm up there with the Young At Hearts!

    Been framing since 1980, full time for 16 yrs.
  16. GPoe

    GPoe MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Middle aged wanta-b...

    Just turned the big 5-0 a couple weeks ago. Been framing for 5 years.
  17. Emibub

    Emibub PFG, Picture Framing God

    I think this is exactly right. The industry has been changing for quite some time now. I don't think so many shops are closing just due to the economy. Lots of shops out there where the people don't get out their front doors much. They think things will improve when the economy does. I truly believe it will take more than a bump in the economy. Status quo will only get you so far.

    ....oh yeah, I'm 55 been framing for 25 years......
  18. Creative Chicks

    Creative Chicks SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    48 years young! I've been framing since I got a taste of it in college 30 years ago, but professionally since 1989. Opened my own shop in 2000.

  19. The Wavy Framer

    The Wavy Framer SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    44 yo and been framing for 15 years.

    As a sales rep, now, I would say the largest age group in my territory is over 50. Second is 40-50.

    There are only a handful of shop owners under 40, but I must say they are the ones who I admire most. They have amazing shops and are extremely good at what they do. One shop owner in particular is amazing and I always feel inspired after visiting with him.

    What Matt says here is so true. Although I can't help but think the boom of photo restoration will be a relatively short lived one as the younger folk will be able to do it themselves, especially as photo software improves.

  20. etlock

    etlock CGF, Certified Grumble Framer


    I am 73. I have worked in this industry continuously for 50 years. Unlike me, framing will last forever.

  21. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I admire your optimism, Tom. Not to mention your tenacity. :)
  22. janetj1968

    janetj1968 PFG, Picture Framing God

    We need to hear more from you. I'd sit in a circle on the floor cross-legged to listen to a framer with 50 years of experience. :)
  23. Carl-Heinz

    Carl-Heinz CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    There was dirt when I was a kid but they had just brought it in! So, I'm almost as old as dirt ;) and I've been framing for almost as long: I started with my sister and never looked back.
  24. framelady64

    framelady64 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Me too.I would love to know how things were done then and how different they are today.Things have changed so much even since I started.
  25. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I have only been at it for 40 years and I could tell y'all stories that would curl your hair.....
  26. framelady64

    framelady64 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I would love to hear them Mar.We all are just gonna have to get together and have a slumber party or maybe it would be called a grumbler party.:party:
  27. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    I've been at it for 41 years so you're just a youngster. I like the Grumbler Party idea. :rolleyes:
  28. framelady64

    framelady64 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    That would be a blast.
  29. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    I helped my former employer of 14 years sell her CTD miter saw to someone who drove down to pick it up from out of state today. I just had surgery on Thursday to repair a hernia but I helped load the 400 pound saw in to the van. Mostly I just supervised. "There's something wrong with us, something very,very wrong with us".
    No problem, I just doubled up on the Hydrocodone when I got home. :icon21:
  30. Blackcat

    Blackcat CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    26, framing for over 3, but I am sure I am only at the beginning of my framing career. I'm completely addicted and would love to have my own shop one day.
  31. BackwoodsFramers

    BackwoodsFramers True Grumbler

    Wow! What a wealth of experience we have here! How many years does it all add up to!

    I'm 51, and we (hubby and I) just started a year ago, looking at the business as some way to "retire" from our paying jobs earlier than other wise would be possible. (Yes, we both still work full time "on the side")

    Things are going well, so maybe "retirement" isn't that far down the road, at least for one of us...someone, namely me, has to keep benefits for a few years.

    We plan on framing until our bodies don't allow it anymore. It's the most fun I've ever had, and gotten paid for it!
  32. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I began my framing life on October 27, 1969. I just round it off to "40 years."

    I think we are even Neil - and Tom has both of us beat by a decade! :)
  33. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    Even it is, Mar. And another decade to go at least, oy! :eek:
  34. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Oy is right, Neil. I was telling Baer the other day that I may have to start decreasing the size of frames I wish to handle as the years go on.

    "Full size jerseys? No - it will be much less expensive to let me fold that under at the bottom!"
  35. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    I just had surgery last Thursday to repair a hernia that I've had for about four years. I took Thursday and Friday off from work plus the weekend. Back to work Monday. The only way to get me to take work days off is to cut me open. I'm a crazy man. :icon11:
  36. ArmyFramer

    ArmyFramer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    The wealth of knowledge on here is amazing.
    38 yo, been framing since 1993, owned my own shop since 2004. Gotta keep at it as Uncle Sam isn't paying what he used to now that I'm retired.
  37. Bron

    Bron SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Mar, My first frame job was probably 1970, off and on, then started one in 72, did other things, then in the early 80's started seriously doing what I do now. I just turned 60, oops, 49. :D
  38. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I like to think of myself as 25 with 39 years experience. ;)
  39. GPoe

    GPoe MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    OH YEAH!!!! I WANT IN ON THAT! :thumbsup: (I'm not even sure if my left leg will do that for very long, but I would force it!)

    I'm with you (except the the age). Became addicted the very first day of my first framing job. Dabbled in it prior with my own artwork but nothing like now.

    Hoping to start my own shop next year. It's great that you found your "calling" so early in your life. I'm 50 and for the past 45 years, I've been asking myself "What do I want to do when I grow up??" Now, this is the only thing I can picture (pardon the pun) myself still doing for the next 20 years.
  40. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    You must have missed the memo. Framing is what people do so instead of growing up.
  41. rhop

    rhop SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer


    I thought retired army rangers got paid more than us poor ole retired army technicians. :faintthud:
  42. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    Sit on the floor cross-legged???:beer: Only in my dreams. My hips would never survive that. And then there is the assistance I will need getting up. :cry:

    I will be glad to sit in my recliner and listen. :beer:
  43. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    All of us used to sit on the floor all the time back in the day!

    A friend went to England (in the sixties) and visited some folks there, went into their living room and plunked herself down on the floor. They looked at her like she was a space alien and finally one asked her, "Don't you Americans have any chairs?"

    I discovered a few years back that I have to crawl back into a standing position unless I have a heavy something to grab onto and pull myself upright. I blame this on my weight, however - not my age!
  44. GPoe

    GPoe MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Darn, I MUST check my in-box! Now where did I move that to??? :icon45:

    Oh my... I never thought about the "getting up" part! Maybe some young-uns can help operate a pulley-system. :help:
  45. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    I wonder what older folks do in cultures (asian, middle east, etc) that uses the floor as furniture. Sitting on rugs or on the floor at 12" high tables.

    Don't their hips get old like mine? What do they do?
  46. Jared Davis CPF GCF

    Jared Davis CPF GCF MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I'm 37 years old here.... and I first started in the industry back in 1991 - so approximately 7000 days of experience in the industry so far... (not counting the minutes!) - and I've still got a lot to learn!

  47. osgood

    osgood SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I'm 62, feeling 82 and have been at this framing thing since 1985. Not long at all compared to some of you guys!

    I've known Jared for most of the time he's been in the industry. He looked about 14 when he first came into my shop!
  48. NEframateur

    NEframateur True Grumbler

    25 here. Have been framing for just under three years commercially. Framing my own artwork for 10 years now. Pretty much hooked.
  49. ArmyFramer

    ArmyFramer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I wish, Still trying to deal with VA to get that sorted out!

    Between framing and coaching hockey I stay young and limber, at least thats what I tell myself after the medication.
  50. Tom Reigle

    Tom Reigle Guest

    Started framing in my dining room in 1987, 'cause I couldn't afford to have it done on a teacher's salary!! I had gone through about 30 yrs. operating an auto body shop including a 13 year stint teaching auto body repair in a local community college. I needed a break from all the political BS that was/is part of education so I taught myself to do framing in the late '80's. I "retired" from framing in 2008 as a result of a layoff here in Florida and kind of played around for a couple of years fishing, kayaking, generally exploring many of the gorgeous state parks here in Florida, and learning to use my DSLR correctly.

    Now, at age 68, I am embarking on my 4th career in one of the most exciting, demanding, and precise challenges I have faced in my adult life, ........ antique clock repair! I bought out the guy with whom I started working when he wanted to close down his clock business and I set up my own little shop here at home.

    One of these years I just know that I will have finally reached the "grownup" status and then I will get serious about what it is I want to do with my life!

    I have been a Grumbler since the Spring of 2001 and learned much of what I know about framing from this forum!
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