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Bison Wax: Neutral or Clear?

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by shayla, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Planning to order some Liberon Bison Fine Paste Wax, to rub on old frames now and then. For those of you who use it, as simply a clear outer coating for what's already there, do you prefer Neutral or Clear? The difference is described here as follows:

    • Neutral- water clear, no pigment, just a protecting coat
    • Clear- light hint of amber, adds "warmth"
    (from Rockler's website).
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  2. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Those two descriptions have always been a mystery to me. o_O

    I have two in the workshop at the mo. Tudor Oak and Clear (the yellowy one)

    The dark one is very good used over gold to add a 'aged' patina.

    As for the other two, I would prefer Neutral and that's probably what I was wanted when I ordered Clear. :confused:
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  3. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Just ordered neutral. I hope we like it.

    If not, you owe us some biscuits. (Not cookies.) The kind that go under gravy. What do you call those over there?
  4. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    Just made me some biscuits and sausage gravy Saturday night in my handy dandy #7 Griswold. Yummy Dummy. :)

    Cheated on the biscuits, though. Used Pillsbury Grands for the biscuits.

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  5. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Looks great!

    I also bought a scratch-hiding pen for wood frames. We'll see if it works. The first folks I framed for hid shallow scratches in colored metal frames with toothpaste.
  6. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I think you will be happy with the Neutral for what you're using it for. I would only use Clear on something new that you want to look new.
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  7. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I first learned of such a thing at the local diner about 30 years ago; they have since gone out of business.

    My wife learned to copy and then improve it*. She makes baking soda biscuits to go with it.

    I order it any time I see it on a menu. I've had it everywhere from Florida to California and have never had any that meets the standard.

    *She just came up with an idea to step it up yet again but hasn't tried it yet. That will be adding some of the locally made "kielbasa" to the Italian sweet sausage she usually uses. This kielbasa is not anything like the normal prepared kielbasa you see in the store, it's just "loose", i.e. not in a casing, and looks more like ground pork (which it is!) with extra stuff added. They normally sell it in patty form, but we buy it in bulk - usually 10# at a time - then make our own patties and grill them. They are soooo good! Can't wait to try it in the sausage gravy.
  8. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    That does it. I'm starting a biscuits & gravy thread. This is too good to not talk more about, so see you in Warped...
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  9. Daniel Smith

    Daniel Smith Grumbler

    On biscuits and gravy. Have found the Jimmy Dean sausages I use have almost no fat. Have to add olive oil to keep them from burning on me. As for biscuits - I get the day old "everything" French of Italian bread from WalMart. Good flavor.

    As for Bison wax - what part of the Bison is used to make it?...
  10. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    The wax part. It's right behind the liver, and they melt it down. har har.... :D

    I was surprised when our tin arrived with hole punched in the center of lid, but it looks intentional.

    As for biscuits and gravy, I did trot over to Warped and start such a thread. You might enjoy checking it out.
  11. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I believe it's similar to Baby Oil.
  12. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    This is what I was going to say :)

    The clear makes new oak or whatever wood you are using it on look slightly warmer and like Peter I ordered the wrong one first, ahhh now I see why they do it like that, they get to sell two when the first one is too warm!
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