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Bury a Competitor

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by Jeff Rodier, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. nikfrz

    nikfrz SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I dont think he/she is opening in this area. I think it is someone else who has a history at that mall.
    Just my 2 cents.
     
  2. Bob Doyle

    Bob Doyle SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    That's ALB. And i don't think that grumbler is the same person opening against Jeff. I would say that if someone was willing to steal a boss' client list I wouldn't put them above stealing a business name and reputation, but ALB does not appear to be that type of person.
     
  3. Robert Buchalter

    Robert Buchalter Grumbler

    Framer Bob

    You need an Attorney to send them a cease and disist letter immediately. That is an infringement on your name. It's never good to go to war unless you are positive you will win. Usually both parties lose big time. Be very careful.
     
  4. CWG

    CWG True Grumbler

    Are the wheels still turning or have they come off ?

    No word in a week puts me on the edge of my seat.

    Good news I hope.
     
  5. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    It's all good. I'm enjoying starting stuff one week at a time. The frame sale is off the hook and I haven't even advertised yet because I can't make the frames fast enough.
     
  6. DVieau2

    DVieau2 PFG, Picture Framing God

  7. j Paul

    j Paul PFG, Picture Framing God

    WOW Doug, I've heard of Frankenthreading but you jumped a whole forum it appears. :icon21:
     
  8. Jerry Ervin

    Jerry Ervin PFG, Picture Framing God

    Any updates?
     
  9. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Just been buried with the sale. I won't have the energy to mess with them for a week or so. They sure have generated a bunch of new web traffic to my site. I need to make some changes to the website to get some points accross. GeAnn had to make an emergency trip up North so I am stuck matting and bagging 1,000 photos by Friday without her help.

    One of the largest benefits of this whole thing is that I have cut up about 15 boxes of moulding that are on the sales floor because the back racks are full. I only have 30 boxes left on the sales floor to cut up. I have to get that done by mid month since the second half of August becomes insane with customers and framing orders.

    When are you coming to the beach?
     
  10. Jerry Ervin

    Jerry Ervin PFG, Picture Framing God

    Too hot right now. I saw we chase some golf balls when it cools down a little.
     
  11. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Sounds like a plan. The beach sure is purty when it's this hot.
     
  12. Artrageous

    Artrageous PFG, Picture Framing God

    why am I hearing banjo music now?
     
  13. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    C'mon.. squeal!
     
  14. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I need some website hits to get to the search engines quicker. Please do a Google, Bing or whatever search you use of the other guy's store name and click through to my home page. More pages coming as I have time.
     
  15. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Wait a sec...... What do you want me to do ???
    And what will you give me if I do it? :D
     
  16. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    The first thing is to search their name which is mine with Grand Strand in front of it and click through to my home page.

    The next thing is..........oh wait this isn't Warped so I can't say.:icon21:
     
  17. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Art & Frame Outlet Gallery - 204 George Bishop Pkwy Myrtle Beach ...
    mbartandframe.com/gallery.aspx - Cached- Block all mbartandframe.com resultsNot helpful? You can block mbartandframe.com results when you're signed in to search.mbartandframe.com
    We have a huge selection of art depicting Myrtle Beach, Surfside Beach, ... other areas along the Grand Strand. Artwork can be purchased framed or unframed. ...


    JEFF!!!!!!!! What does this mean??? Just wondering.... :popc:
     
  18. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    That's why you need to click through. The cached page has been changed so it knows that the old info is not what you should be looking at. Just click away Nic and everything will update. The cache is what is remembered by your computer and the search engine.
     
  19. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    So If I click like .......say........ 70 or so times....... I get chocolate right?
     
  20. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Sure thing but we better wait till the temp cools down or it will be chocalate syrup.
     
  21. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    DONE...... hope it helped ........... PAY UP!!!!! :D
     
  22. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Yes it did as I see your search on my web page.
     
  23. MaJa

    MaJa SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I did it! Anything to help. Chocolate comes in powder form, too. You could send that ... and have you heard of dry ice?? :icon21:
     
  24. cjmst3k

    cjmst3k SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Just gave you about 20 clicks. Hope it helps.

    BTW, on c-list they have an advertisement that came up on google, and they're no longer using "outlet". Now using "gallery".
     
  25. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I saw that gallery part and it gets you to my gallery page. D-bags should just buy the next new sign before I have to continue playing the game. Their business is still not listed by the Sec of State. The SoS will be the next piece of the game but the Dept of Rev is currently looking at how they were collecting sales taxes under bogus names.
     
  26. Puppiesonacid

    Puppiesonacid SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Be careful Jeff... I have been hearing things about random searches on google for non valid clicks, IE... out of area...

    Google might crack down and shut the searching for your place down for a bit...

    Google is cracking down a lot on random search type stuff... Maybe it will work the way you want, and nothing will come of it, but yeah. that is what I have heard because I was doing the same thing from others computers for mine.

    Maybe this is false info, but some friends and my brother told me about this... and my brother is in the computer field.
     
  27. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Yes Google changed the algorythem due to major SEO companies gaming the system. These companies were using computers to do thousands of searches for a sight to move it to the top.
     
  28. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I looked at the Sec of State website and found that Art & Frame Gallery is also registered. I will be making a call to the owner of that name as well.
     
  29. johnny

    johnny SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    mischief managed
     
  30. bruce papier

    bruce papier MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Don't take "Art & Frame Gallery" being registered with the SoS as absolute protection. There are more than one shop with names very close to ours in our state. The exclusivity has geographic limits. Just adding one word can be the difference.
     
  31. nikfrz

    nikfrz SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Jeff, I would suggest that you do not call Art and Frame Gallery. They registered in 1998.

    There are many businesses in this area that operate under DBA. Corps in SC are not required to file DBA's in their paperwork. I think some states do require it. Not sure.
     
  32. Not your average framer

    Not your average framer CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Hi Jeff,

    I've just done a few clicks for you to add to all the rest.

    I hope this helps,
    Mark
     
  33. howdytex

    howdytex MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Any updates?
     
  34. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I got my first complaint cal about my mall location. I told them that they are a bunch of lying, thieving bastards that are trying to steal my name and good reputation. I let him know that if they are willing to steal my name they should have no cares about stealing his money. Told him to call the mall manager and let him know what a bunch of thieves they are.
     
  35. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    So, they're still operating under your company's name? What has your lawyer recommended?
     
  36. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    No Jim it turns out they were too cheap to buy new business cards. The ones they have say Grand Strand Art & Frame Outlet on them. This customer had called 3 times here when I was closed yesterday and again this morning after the mall was open so I guess they were not willing to satisfy him and have been trying to call me to get it taken care of.

    The mall manager warned what a bunch of sleezeballs they are but said the mall needed tenants so they will take anything they can get. The mall will need to refinance their loan soon so I hope they crash and burn just like they deserve.
     
  37. cjmst3k

    cjmst3k SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    So is there no legal recourse to get them to stop using your name?
     
  38. johnny

    johnny SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I think Jeff's taking the blunt force approach. Attorneys suck. Gogogogo Jeff!
     
  39. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    They did change tthe sign twice. Down to business cards now and I guess they are saving up for the $25 expenditure.

    That's right johnny sometimes you just got to go old world and take care of things yourself. It's been fun so far but I am meeting with the newspaper later this week.
     
  40. Bob Doyle

    Bob Doyle SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    When talking to the newspaper be sure you don't say anything that they could sue you for. Or anything the newspaper may too chicken to print :) Just be sure that you get out that "real deals and real values come from the real store" No fake names, prices or offers in your store. :)
     
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