What? I am not saying that, and niether did my prior post say that. I was saying that a nasty employer was not treating his non union employees well, and that Unions are there to protect the employees, by providing for a safe work site and regulations. Your attempt at taking Jeff's position that the Union was somehow responsible for regulation and claiming that that was my position is not honest on your part. And I really don't think Jeff said that either. Why do you twist my words so much to match the narrative you want to promote? My comment of the continuing need for Unions never said the union did the regulating. (Neither did Jeff) My comment was about foul employers and that their existence was the reason for the continuing presence of Unions. Among the most powerful lobbyists? Really? So you're saying Big Pharma is a Union? Tobacco is a Union? Come on Jim, you have been known to be able to eviscerate my posts with the truth, don't twist my words and then attack your twists as falsehoods on my part. I respect your opinion, but have trouble when you do this to my opinion.