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Question Deep Shadowboxes

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Countryside Frames

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I sometimes run into a need for deep shadowbox mouldings. The majority of the suppliers I've come across don't carry deep (4" or deeper) boxes nor do I see many stackable shadowboxes. Does anyone know of a good supplier that carries moulding of this type that would deliver in the North East?

Thanks in advance.
 
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prospero

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Not much use to you, as the only stackable box moulding I know is from a UK supplier.

But, when you think about it most box mouldings are just a square piece of timber with a rabbet milled in. You might consider
talking to a local timber yard to see if they will run some up for you. Easy enough to finish it with varnish or wotnot.
If you want a gesso-based finish you can sometimes find a flat moulding and miter it on it's back so the rabbet ends up facing up.
Then it's just a case of finding a suitable moulding to miter in the conventional way and drop into this upturned rabbet.

I had a similar dilemma recently where I needed a box with a min 35mm space. I managed to find a piece of softwood 65x 38mm.
With my limited woodworking kit I routed a half-round along one edge and then cut in a rabbet with a table saw. I was aiming for
a weathered, rustic finish so this was good as the timber was a piece of constructional studding. A quick going-over with a wire brush
was all that was needed. Coat of shellac. Coat of dark brown paint. Coat of white paint. Sand and wax.
The piece I cut out to form the rabbet nicely made the spacer. Finished the same way.

The best part was that the timber cost 3GBP. :p

 

David Waldmann

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
We don't stock anything that deep (yet) but can custom mill up to 13" deep in a single, solid piece. Please let me know if you're interested in pricing; we would need quantity, species and finish to provide an accurate quote.
 

Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
The custom products of Vermont Moulding are beautiful and may be practical for many special applications, but the cost and delivery time may be prohibitive for one or a few projects.

You could stack standard mouldings on edge (i.e., 3" wide moulding turned vertically) to achieve almost any depth beneath a face-moulding, but frames more than 3" deep create what is commonly known as the "open casket" appearance. Also, that sort of framing design usually requires plenty of empty space around the perimeter to avoid having mounted items hiding in shadows, which increases the dimensions and the cost.

As an alternative, you could use ordinary moulding with an acrylic box, which can be fabricated locally or purchased from a few suppliers that cater to the framing industry, such as Gemini/Showcase in Elgin IL, and Superior Acrylic Framing in Riverside CA.

Or, another alternative is to build a glass box, which can be made of any 2.5 mm thick glass. I prefer to use 99% UV filtering, anti-reflection glass. You can do that in-house, and it often produces visually-stunning results at very reasonable cost - especially if you can use up some of those scraps of Museum Glass that we all hesitate to throw away. However, the glass pieces must be precisely cut, and assembled properly using two types of tape. An L-shaped frame would provide the best safety and support from the bottom, especially if the dimensions are large. For an example, see the article about framing Masonic swords, "Shadowboxes, the Cutting Edge" on page 22 of the November 2015 PFM.
 

John Ranes II CPF GCF

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
We don't stock anything that deep (yet) but can custom mill up to 13" deep in a single, solid piece. Please let me know if you're interested in pricing; we would need quantity, species and finish to provide an accurate quote.
You may have noticed that we ordered a bull set of corner samples while at WCAF Expo this past week! We are looking forward to finally doing business with you. :)

John
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Inline Ovals can make some of their frames up to 7" deep.
 

skye

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Inline Ovals can make some of their frames up to 7" deep.
I actually looked into that for a customer framing a bouquet of flowers- we wound up making a box. I'll see if the cost is at all comparable. I know it's going to be a pain to complete- attaching a frame to the top of the box, and trying to paint the box to look similar to the moulding. I'll take photos when it's done.
 
C

Countryside Frames

Guest
Thanks for the input. I have made custom sized wooden shadowboxes before and done a stacked moulding on top of a deep wooden box frame for added depth. In this specific case I have a customer who wants to try to match a moulding she had seen for her wedding dress. She was originally looking for a marbleized finish that I would have a difficult time recreating if I made the frame myself or had it custom milled. No telling when the photo was taken but she but she likely found it on Tumblr or Pintrest. Thanks again for the thorough answers.

I took a look at Vermont Hardwoods and they definitely are nice. I'm always keeping my options open. I'm in an area where we do get some very specific requests for framing sometimes. Do you do anything in Bird's Eye Maple? I had a customer looking for some a few months ago and he may still be interested but I didn't have a source at the time.
 
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