SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Some of the new DSLR's will accept the old lenses but you need to be sure they are fully functional with the DSLR body.
The negatives from your film camera can easily be scanned to make a digital image.How would that Canon AE1 work in a digital studio??
Warren,Jerry, of course scanning negatives is a "piece of cake" if you don't care what the result looks like.
Yes, photo CD machines can quickly process and scan negative file,..... And no one would suggest that the results were commercial quality.
Framing has always been that way. Dad started framing with a manual miter saw, shopsmith, and a mat cutter. Yet many won't put together this $200 collection of tools and frame for themselves. Digital imaging is much more expensive to get started but can be done from tools gathered at Best Buy. Yet many won't - ever. A little skill and a few tools and you will be able to offer a service to your customers that even if they could, would never do themselves.And then you consider going into digital imaging (is there any other kind now?) with abilities that any slightly motivated customer can buy off the shelf at a local Best Buy and do it for himself.
That tells me that there is at several different ends of the market. Everybody including yourself knows that. Why is it that the end you operate at the only one you respect?What I offer is 9 years continual experience in the field and an array of equipment that will produce results superiors to what mass merchandisers offer.
What industry standard? What industry?Back to the main topic. Think of what you’re saying about quality in digital imaging? Offer a service that’s “just good enough” as opposed to work that meets industry standards.
But I thought you said the software to do it correctly was cost prohibitive. You don't have the right equipment but you still offer the service? Please explain!Now as an experiment, someone take a color negative, say 35mm, slap it into your consumer or prosumer scanner and scan it at the scanner’s highest optical resolution (know what that means?) and then print out a 30 x36 poster. We do that a lot.
And yet me with an inferior rig sell the service. So what's that mean? Really! One of us is wrong. I'm pretty sure it isn't me. Maybe “top quality” is fluid and hinges on cost?Almost everybody who comes to me wants the best I can produce, even the amateur photographers. In fact, they can be the most demanding because they don’t realize the limitations inherent in capturing and printing excellent images. I’m serious, no one has walked into my lab and asked for snapshot quality work. As to art reproduction, I’m not going there except to say that even the amateurs demand top quality work.
That is to be commended. Photography is an environment I'm somewhat familiar with. The guy I have learned the most from has a warehouse for a studio and three fortunes in gear. Yet he is happy to help me use my $200 speed light to the best of my ability. You would just look at my gear and say it can't be done. You have basically told Elaine that she can't do what she wants to do without a lot of exotic gear that almost nobody owns. It doesn't sound like it takes much experience to offer that type of help.I’m just offering experience I’ve gained the hard and expensive way here; I’m not trying to sell anything. There is a lot to learn about digital imaging and the learning curve is steep. You have to know enough about it to know what it requires to be done well.
You should imagine my surprise. I should offer much more grace. Something is obviously going on personally. This is not the guy I visited 5 years ago. In person maybe but reading your last 100 posts or so, I wouldn't be inspired to drive ½ way across the country to visit. I really miss the guy that was posting back then. What is being shared here has a much different tone to it. Out of respect (to you and the G) I will offer much more grace starting now. I still won't over look bad or discouraging advice.And, Jay, the "affinity I have for myself" is fortunately shared by my close friends. I find that remark somewhat revealing coming from a stranger to whom I extended full hospitality and spent half a day business with answering questions and demonstrating how our business worked.
What scanner are you talking about? There was one made by, I think, Epson a while back. It was pricy and only sold to stores that would scan really quick and loaded like a document scanner. So you could drop in a few dozen mix matched photo sizes and it would scan and save each scan completely automated. I can't remember the price but I thought it was over a grand. Is it something like that you're talking about?Im also thinking of buying one of those Kodak document scanners and selling "shoebox" scanning services. You know 300 prints scanned in five minutes for $49.95. What do you think? It's becoming a big business for the photo lab crowd.
I won't even pretend that I am playing even in the shallow end of this pool. However I agree with Jay, that many consumers won't enter this market themselves.Framing has always been that way. Dad started framing with a manual miter saw, shopsmith, and a mat cutter. Yet many won't put together this $200 collection of tools and frame for themselves. Digital imaging is much more expensive to get started but can be done from tools gathered at Best Buy. Yet many won't - ever. A little skill and a few tools and you will be able to offer a service to your customers that even if they could, would never do themselves.
That tells me that there is at several different ends of the market. Everybody including yourself knows that. Why is it that the end you operate at the only one you respect?
Personally, it's not worth my time to do those simple jobs jpaul is doing.
One of my favorite cameras I've owned was an AE-1. It was almost indestructible.Canon AE1 It's about 30 years old but is still good ;-)
Well, Johnny Columbus hopped in his rowboat made of recycled pea pods and paddled nothing but West, South and North. After 1492 days of paddling (with his bare hands at the end, because a vicious storm broke his oars in half) he ended up where he started from. So, while it appears that the earth is flat, simple physics tell us it must at least be three dimensional, and probably spherical.This is like arguing with someone about whether or not the world is flat.
I just poured through this whole thread and was more confused than when I started reading it. It's information like this that makes me shy away from even thinking about digital printing. Having said that, I am still mildly curious about --and I don't want to upset anyone--the lower end. jPaul. What scanner and printer are you using?I won't even pretend that I am playing even in the shallow end of this pool. However I agree with Jay, that many consumers won't enter this market themselves.
I just did 17 scans/18 prints yesterday and with tax it came in just pennies under $100. I sat behind my counter and scanned them when I had down time. There are all ends of the market and ways to make money.
With my limited consumer equipment, I had just this experience yesterday. I charged the customer $10. for a new scan with a little touch up because she was about to send it to a university to be included in a book and she was miserable with the copy she had. Black/white enlargement was done by Walgreens. Other by me with 3 minutes in Photoshop. Customer was very happy and will be mine for years to come. We sent a more complicated overnight restoration to Dig Custom, and again, today she is delighted.I have had many pieces come in where some local business has scanned an old photo and now the customer wants it framed. The piece is horrible and i know that I could do a much better job. I usually ask if they still have the original and if so I offer to make it better for them.
Your setup of printers, papers, and scanners sounds a lot like mine, and I would think it would satisfy the needs of the vast majority of the consumers that come into our shops.Enhanced Matte is the best all around non-archival paper out there. I also use Velvet, Fine Art Watercolor, Ultra-Smooth Fine Art and Epson Canvas. These are all Epson products and the profiles are right there so there is no rocket science involved. .
Bump. Bill, what scanner are you using?Your setup of printers, papers, and scanners sounds a lot like mine, and I would think it would satisfy the needs of the vast majority of the consumers that come into our shops.
Out of the thousands of Grumblers, I would be willing to bet only a handful could afford or have the desire to spend 50K to 100K on digital printing equipment. IMO
The rest of us will buy what we can afford and print out hundreds of nice photos and prints on our off the shelf printers, scanners, and cameras.