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Kirstie

PFG, Picture Framing God
Baer's post with regard to the "starting point" presents a chilling picture of a possible industry future. It is incumbent upon all small businesses that intend to survive in this sea change of consumer buying habits and consolidation of suppliers to find a way to stand out, be different, offer more than the hobby and framing chains and Internet competition, no matter who the big players are. This is a tall order considering the might of big advertising dollars. There is only one playing field that can help level the competition, a free and open Internet, and even that is currently being challenged by the likes of Facebook.

I have repeatedly asked for an idea thread on this subject. I have started them, but they peter out without too many solid ideas. How can we as small retailers stand up to the might of the BBs, the chains, the Internet, and hopefully not, our suppliers? This will not be an easy road for those who survive. We need new, constructive ideas, and we need to start now, before Baer's vision becomes a reality.
 

Pat Murphey

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
...What is going on here in the PNW is totally legal. Larson did buy Documounts, from NW Framing which is right next door, and part of the deal was that LJ would be their sole supplier of everything that they can provide, which in fact was a huge hit for Framers Inventory (some estimates of close to 28% of their volume).... why so high? Because with 85 stores out of the 480 in the two states.... and doing a high volume of business.... the stakes are that high...
So LJ made a move to carve out a larger wholesale presence with an arrangement to supply a large retail establishment. That is not the issue raised by the OP. The debate about wholesaler's tactics selling to large retailers is worthy of separate debate, but I might point out that LJ has certainly had setbacks, too, caused by entities becoming large enough to bring "distribution" in house.

Competition opens doors and closes doors, but ultimately our customers will declare that schemes that lower prices will win in the end. There isn't much we can do to stop that train. We are all searching for solutions that allow us to stay in business, and maybe, thrive.

:kaffeetrinker_2:
 

danny boy

PFG, Picture Framing God
Kirstie and Baer have the answer. We can not control (to a part) what Large framing distributors do. But we can control what we do.
I want to be proactive and build my business to survive.
So... Where do I go from here?
 

Paul N

In Corner
Oh well, that's all off topic. Back to the topic. When LJ first bought them, I could swear they announced that there would be some changes soon. Was that about documounts or another venture? I swear I think there was an formal announcement about documounts from LJ that they were going to change the site. This, as I remember it, was a response to address the malcontenment from framers that this site was causing. Does any of this ring a bell or did I just make it up on the spot?
I remember reading that here too.
 

RParrish

PFG, Picture Framing God
Jay you are correct, I believe it was John Ranes that was talking to LJ about it too, They had a major announcement and then postponed it, until we forgot about it. That was about 9 months ago.
 

cjmst3k

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Kirstie and Baer have the answer. We can not control (to a part) what Large framing distributors do. But we can control what we do.
I want to be proactive and build my business to survive.
So... Where do I go from here?

I've chose to buy from some suppliers, and not from other suppliers. Our dollars speak much louder than words. Just look at all the words on this thread... lol!
 

JAYENESS/SPOKANE

True Grumbler
Sticking up for LJ now....... I received an email from Michaels in response to my question of wether they carry LJ mouldings or not and here it is. No mention of mats, backing, or hardware though.
Dear Damon,
The glass used in our custom framing comes from Larson-Juhl, but the frames themselves are from a company called Artistree.

Thank you for visiting Michaels.com

Sincerely,
Michaels Customer Care

CCCallID: 02444105
 

FramerDave

PFG, Picture Framing God
Sticking up for LJ now....... I received an email from Michaels in response to my question of wether they carry LJ mouldings or not and here it is. No mention of mats, backing, or hardware though.
Dear Damon,
The glass used in our custom framing comes from Larson-Juhl, but the frames themselves are from a company called Artistree.

Thank you for visiting Michaels.com

Sincerely,
Michaels Customer Care

CCCallID: 02444105
Did you ask about mats backing and hardware?

Seriously, let it die and work on your own business.
 
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