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Does anyone have a local picture framers' association in their city?

charming

Grumbler
I have often wondered about setting up a local association here, not affiliated with any national body, just a group of framers who could act in their own general interests.

Has anyone even tried this?
 
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JFeig

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I attempted to set up an "advertising group" like local auto dealers way back in the late 80's. I did not have a single taker to the idea.
 
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Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Back in the 1980s there were numerous local PPFA chapters around the country, especially in major cities, but they died off, one by one. I can't speak about all of those chapters, but the Central Ohio chapter died because framers simply stopped attending the meetings. My impression is that too many of them were bored and didn't want to waste an evening a month in the same old conversations over beer and pizza with people who weren't actually friends. Sad, but true.

Also, many of them didn't want to fraternize with their local competitors -- I guess they were afraid someone would steal their customers or their framing secrets. I never understood the secrecy thing. A number of framers have visited my shop over the years, and every one if them was invited to the back room for a chat over coffee/tea/snacks (and in the early days, beer). I have visited quite a few framers at home and around the country, but very few are welcoming. On the contrary, even out if town, most of them are very stand-off-ish and really don't want to waste their time or engage at all.

Probably the closest thing to what you seek would be the social media forums for framers, such as The Picture Framers Private Group, Framers Only, Underpinner, Professional Picture Framers Group (PPFA), Framers Point, and several others. If you actually have local framing friends, maybe you could meet them online.

I have no idea where you are, but if you care to visit for social or shop-talk, come on down and we'll do lunch or something.
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I would have liked to set up a buying group but couldn't get enough takers to even do that. It would have been a great way to get materials at a lessor price or even materials that are not sold locally. Like Jim said, "Also, many of them didn't want to fraternize with their local competitors -- I guess they were afraid someone would steal their customers or their framing secrets. I never understood the secrecy thing."
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
How about organizing a monthly Meetup in your area. Or better yet, online so others could participate.
There are a few other online groups going but they all are run through Facebook which I totally detest and which is on it's way out for businesses. Less and less business are on Facebook because you competitors even run ads on your FB page. I even had Michaels have a ad that was displayed on my FB page. Local meetup just doesn't work, it didn't work when we were all part of the PPFA so I believe it would be even harder without. Sorry, I sound so negative, but I'm just stating the truth in our area.
 

Cliff Wilson

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Well, New England Professional Picture Framers Association is headquartered in my shop. Is that local? (I'm the Treasurer, so keeper of the address for now)
A number of us get together, talk regularly, help each other out, and share shipments and such.
Aside from the NEPPFA events (see FRAMECON 2019 advertising), the rest is very casual and not organized much.

About a dozen years ago I got half a dozen framers to all chip in create a "Local Framers" website and make a television commercial which we ran for a while.
General consensus was that it was a waste of time.
 

charming

Grumbler
Back in the 1980s there were numerous local PPFA chapters around the country, especially in major cities, but they died off, one by one. I can't speak about all of those chapters, but the Central Ohio chapter died because framers simply stopped attending the meetings. My impression is that too many of them were bored and didn't want to waste an evening a month in the same old conversations over beer and pizza with people who weren't actually friends. Sad, but true.

Also, many of them didn't want to fraternize with their local competitors -- I guess they were afraid someone would steal their customers or their framing secrets. I never understood the secrecy thing. A number of framers have visited my shop over the years, and every one if them was invited to the back room for a chat over coffee/tea/snacks (and in the early days, beer). I have visited quite a few framers at home and around the country, but very few are welcoming. On the contrary, even out if town, most of them are very stand-off-ish and really don't want to waste their time or engage at all.

Probably the closest thing to what you seek would be the social media forums for framers, such as The Picture Framers Private Group, Framers Only, Underpinner, Professional Picture Framers Group (PPFA), Framers Point, and several others. If you actually have local framing friends, maybe you could meet them online.

I have no idea where you are, but if you care to visit for social or shop-talk, come on down and we'll do lunch or something.

Well thanks for the invitation. For the record, I am in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
 

FramerCat

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I tried setting up a local advertising group about ten years ago. I had quite a few interested shops and almost had a couple of suppliers willing to pitch in, but the suppliers pulled out at the last minute. So instead of taking money from the other shops I just tried advertising my own shops through the media we were going to try as a group. It was not successful so I'm glad I didn't disappoint everyone else with the experience. I did make a bunch of local framer friends and we still help each other out with advice and materials when we come across out of stocks and such.

Ed
 
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