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Opinions Wanted Employee now running his own shop from home...

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by DanPat, Feb 12, 2017.

  1. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Agreed. She reminds of Dirk's wife, and even has a very similar name. In fact I often think it IS Dirk's wife posting when I read shayla's posts.
  2. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    lol....Thanks, David. Love, Twyla (aka Mrs. Dirk)

    now, back to regularly scheduled programming (aka: DanPat's thread)

    GUMBY GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    You could also just reduce his hours to 2 hours a day one day a week
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  4. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    That should give him enough time to cut all the mats he needs to cut for his home based business.
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  5. DanPat

    DanPat CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    Sorry I have been absent from this thread the past few days. I did let him go, but it was difficult. Shayla, thank you for the words you said. It really helped me as I have been questioning my decision. Today has been better for me. I wish him well.

    Normally my wife doesn't get too involved in my business decisions, but she did on this one. And was firm on what she felt would be best for the business and our family. Thank you everyone for the support. It really helped me see that these actions shouldn't be taken lightly.
  6. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Very glad to hear it, and blessings on your wife for giving you encouragement. My hubby does the same for me, especially when I need resources that aren't much in my nature. I hope you all have a good spring.
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  7. Bob Carter

    Bob Carter SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    the employee you do not fire is far worse a problem than the one you do fire
  8. Scout

    Scout Grumbler

    I once went through a similar situation in a previous career. I wish you the best.
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  9. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I believe you were right to terminate him. And yes, it's supposed to be difficult when you value your employer/employee relationships.

    Now that you have severed that relationship, you might want to watch for signs of retribution. That is, he may have taken your customer list and could try to pirate your customers, or he may try to damage your reputation in social media, or among suppliers and other framers.
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  10. monkey

    monkey CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Wow. I feel for you. You need to fire this Ding Dong before he steals all you customer database, pricing structure, markups, trade secrets, and marketing strategy. Which I'm sure he already has. Meanwhile you are just funding his start up business. Once his business is officially open you are going to be at a disadvantage competing with him. He knows everything about your business structure and you know nothing about his.

    Firing him is not difficult. Just make sure you keep a record of all the this for when he files for unemployment so you can dispute it. When your ready to fire him (I suggest ASAP); If he has the key to your shop do it on a day when he opens. Go in early and wait inside and after he open the shop with his keys ask him for the keys in a calm and normal manor as if there is something wrong with the lock and you need the keys back. Once you have your keys, tell him he's fired and hand him his last paycheck and try to get him out asap and calmly as possible. And defiantly change the lock that day since he probably has copies made of your keys. If your worried, have someone there with you, preferably someone who he has never seen before, he's less likely to be confrontational.

    By the way. Can I ask what his name is so none of us make the mistake of possibly hiring him?

    Good Luck
  11. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    To clarify, the employee has already been fired.

    Seems like it would be less confrontational to change the locks first, be there ahead of the employee with the doors open and not even mention the key. Or show up early and have it scheduled for the same day he's fired. If he come sneakings back later, he'll find out soon enough that his doesn't work.

    As for sharing names, it's possible that someone might give such info. in a private note, (although it's only salient if you're in the same area), but for a variety of reasons, they wouldn't do so here. The three employees we've had since buying the shop have been great, but although I've trained many workers in my years as a shop manager, being the business owner carries emotional freight that isn't much in my make-up. If we ever end up with a sour one, I'm going to need a lot of support from my dear husband to handle it.
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