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Facebook Question

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by Kirstie, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    Sometimes I get a FB suggestion to become a fan of someone's business page. How do you set this up? I would like to send such a message to all the people who are in my friends group suggesting that they become a fan of The Framer's Workshop.
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  2. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Go to your business page. Under your profile picture on your business page will be some options. Click on "more" and a "suggest fans" option will come up.

    Click on that and a box with all your friends will come up, and just click on everyone that you want to invite to be fans.
  3. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Related Question...


    How does your link at the bottom of your posts take you directly to your business page on FaceBook? When I attempted to set this up with a similar url address, mine would take the viewer to the FaceBook login page???

    Is this something to do with the settings, or only because I'm viewing it?

  4. 13FW

    13FW True Grumbler

    that answered my question on the topic thanks! then there is the issue of how do i get my biz to show up as a link on my personal page?
  5. RParrish

    RParrish PFG, Picture Framing God

    The viewer would have to have a Facebook account and be signed in.
  6. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I have not figured that out yet.
    The relationship between my personal page and business page is still a little confusing to me, and I'm still trying to figure it out.
    Maybe kirstie will enlighten us on how to set up the link.
  7. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    I'm not sure John. I just went to my business page and then pasted the address in to the CP on the Grumble.

    This link would be yours.

    Ah, maybe if you are not signed in you have to sign in first. You can view a business page without being friends with the owner, but you do have to be signed in to Facebook.
  8. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    OK, done. Some names were greyed out so I assume those were people who were already fans. I sent one to everyone else. It seemed to grab the friends list from my personal account. So if you get one of these fan suggestions, you know what to do...

  9. chloecapulet

    chloecapulet Grumbler in Training

    just became a fan of "The Framer's Workshop" today!!!
    Good job, Kirstie!
  10. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer


    Still wondering because I'm not signed up to FaceBook. I click on my link that you pasted above and I go to the Facebook Sign-In Page. When I clicked on your link it takes me directly to your business page!

    I can also navigate your links?

  11. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Yes, the ones in "grey" are aleady fans.

    I need to take a "how to" facebook class. :)
  12. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    You can navigate my FB Page because the business pages are not private, I think.
    You must be a personal FB member or you would not have been able to create the FB business page, correct. I know you are.

    Not sure about why you are going to the sign in page if you are signed in. I keep FB sign in saved on my computers. Maybe that's why? But why can you get to mine without signing in. This stiff is indeed confusing.

    I just signed out and clicked your link which did take me to the sign in page. So you have to be signed in as a FB member to view a FB page. That's your answer.

    I am TEN Fans away from 100. Then I can get a unique Facebook URL. Thanks everyone. Keep fanning!
  13. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I'm Not signed in...can click to your business page, but not mine. Still confused?

    Naturally when I'm signed in, then any link to a deeper content FB page works.

    (Kirstie...I'm surprised that I'm now only 13 away from 100! Thanks to all who signed up!)

  14. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I have 245 fans and it IS real nice to have www.facebook.com/shawneedreams to put on emails and my web page and blog. It is worth it for I can point out over 20 sales coming directly from Facebook in the last 2 months! I only invest about 10 minutes a day into it and otherwise it is free! My kind of price.

  15. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    TOM!! how did you do this............I can not figure it out!!!! :cry:!!!
  16. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    My store is in a town of less than 2000 people. I take that back, this town doesn't even exist. They have no post office, no gas station, no barber shop. They just have a school and four or five stores one of which is mine.

    This is the set up, now I network face to face ALOT! I am a member of two photography clubs, one art gallery - on the board there, and a member of SINA Southern Illinois Networking Association. Church, and other such things like 4H bring in even more.

    Only a few stores here right, well I got three other of the stores to put up a Facebook Business page. Soon they brought in more business. Slow summer months became busy summer months. By inviting all my friends to join those other stores and them reciprocating to my store, they already believed I am a good joe. I started this exactly 2 1/2 months ago and the fans still go up 2 to 3 a day as each of those fans are asked to invite their friends. This thing will become "viral" and you already have the stamp of approval!

    And that is how I do it.

  17. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Where do you go to sign up and get the special ?? I can't find it.
  18. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

  19. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Following is copied from help files:

    You can sign up for a username starting at 12:01 a.m. EDT on Saturday, June 13, 2009, by visiting www.facebook.com/username. After selecting one for your application or company name, you will see a green check mark indicating that the name is available before you actually claim it. In some cases, your desired username may not be available because someone has already selected it or because we've reserved certain names that have been brought to our attention in an effort to help third parties protect their intellectual property and other rights. If your username is unavailable or you wish to report that another username infringes your intellectual property rights, please click here.

    Good Luck

    PS Sorry for the other explanation!!!!
  20. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    New Facebook URL

    Finally got 100 fans! Thanks everyone for becoming a fan.
    I kept hoping our store name would not be taken. Here is our new facebook URL:

  21. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    You need to have 100 fans for your business FB page and then you can get one. Then you get one by going to www.facebook.com/username.
  22. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    Tell us more about how Facebook brought you sales.
  23. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Thanks Tom and Kirstie. I'm now facebook.com/oceanart1
  24. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Well after reading posts here for a couple of years, I came to the conclusion that many people didn't feel comfortable coming in a frame shop because they didn't know what we do or what kind of price they might have to pay.
    So I started by telling them what kind of services we offer. About 5-6 times a week I would post a service, sometimes the obvious framing but I would give them a price range and a reason for the price range. Sometimes someone would ask about a service in the store and I would relate that request on facebook so that others could see others were asking about it. For instance I had someone request that I scan WWI photos of their grandfather and I went online and said how much I loved my job to be able to take old memories and preserve them. Within the week I had one person have me scan a photo that had stuck to the glass, print and frame the new photo correctly, another came in and I did restoration work on their photo, framed it and mage them happy and now am copying pictures someone took on a Sony Mavica that saved to floppy disk and they no longer have a floppy drive. No framing there but they run Cave-In-Rock State Park restaurant and cabins and have commissioned me to place up to 8 framed pieces in each of the 8 cabins they run and put framed art in the restaurant and buy matted photos I have taken of the area for their gift shop.
    Other things I talk about are replacing broken frames, glass, having things as simple as d-rings available. One of the first jobs I got off Facebook, the lady came in for me to take a picture out of a frame, put a new piece of art in, mat it and put in glass. When she came in to pick up the piece, she brought a 20x30 pic of her daughter's wedding to be framed and hasn't stopped yet as she is now comfortable in a frame shop, at least my frame shop.
    I really try to use it to break down that invisible wall that seems to surround our stores and make people want to come in rather than being afraid of looking stupid, cheap or just plain uncomfortable.
    As I have said before, because their friend suggested to them to become my fan, I have the Good Joe sela of approval. Beats that stupid yellow cape they are pushing in the yellow pages around here!
    Just take a look at www.facebook.com/shawneedreams and you will see what I mean.

  25. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    Excellent ideas Tom. Thanks.

    We are off to Paris this morning for one week, but there is a computer in the apartment so I will be checking in on you all periodically!
  26. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Bon chance!!

  27. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

  28. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Facebook Settings....

    To all with Facebook business pages... FYI

    I finally figured our why the link to sign up as a fan on my business page would not open when I was not signed up but this did on other's pages.

    Go to Settings > Age Restrictions > Set to Anyone (13+)

    I had mine set to People over 21 hence you had to complete a Facebook profile to open the page.

  29. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    AHHHHH!!! Ancient chinese secret huh!!!

  30. jim_p

    jim_p SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Okay, I've got my facebook page going at http://www.facebook.com/baldwinhillframing . Interestingly enough, I was able to get a username with only 28 fans (but I'm happy to have more :) )

    I'm going to use this to complement my website; I'm going to be blogging significant events and maintaining detailed information about my business on my website, and I'm going to use the Facebook page for more informal notes about our day-to-day activities.

    We'll see how this goes!
  31. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Hit 100 Fans today!

    Thanks Cliff Wilson for becoming Fan number 100 to our Facebook page!

    Jim... Indeed, I was also able to log onto a unique User Name with less than 100 Fans.

    Many of us still have mixed feelings about these social media tools, and yes it takes some time, but I also see FB as an opportunity to compliment our other electronic email communications to potential and existing customers.

  32. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Here's a question about Facebook business pages - all of the shop names I have seen so far are pretty unique - what about someone like me with a more generic shop name. There are frame shops named State of the Art all over the country (one girl from Buffalo moved to Florida, opened a shop and stole my shop name) - so then does the URL add the location?
  33. DTWDSM

    DTWDSM SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Mar, my understanding is first come first served when it comes to FB names. Once you have it nobody can have the same one, they would have to add something like Stateof the art1 or stateof the artNY. Get it whiile you can

    Also same thing with Twitter if you or anyone else is looking at that as well
  34. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    That's exactly right! When you put in the name you want to use, it will check for availability, then either approve it or tell you to try again. Recently the 100 fan minimum has been removed if you use the method I placed in an earlier post.

  35. Rebecca

    Rebecca SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Well here's a facebook question. Is there anyway to keep one's "wall" clean? ie it seems that anytime someone has a thought or idea, it ends up on my wall, and I don't particularly want to see it!

    I mean, I might want to go to their wall and see what they are up to, but on my own it seems like grafitti!
  36. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Man oh man - I just tried that facebook/username thing to register my site and it said I needed to confirm with a mobile phone account number.

    Well for crying out loud - I do not now have nor do I ever intend to have in the future a mobile phone.

    I'm voted off the island before I even get on the boat.
  37. Pat Kotnour

    Pat Kotnour SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I finally broke down and joined Face Book which is something I said I would never do. Why you might ask?....mostly due to lack of time.

    But now that I am on Face Book it has come to my attention that many want to be my friend, and at first I didn't know that there was more to it than just wanting to be someone's friend. You actually must paste and accept them before they are added. My apologies to the many who have invited me to be their friend. My lack of understanding the system caused me to delete some of the people without accepting them. If you sent an invitation and I have not accepted, please send again.

    One of the biggest problems I have with Face Book is that, now I have it, I have no idea how to use it....so.o.o if you have sent me a message and have gotten no response, this is the reason. One of these days I will figure it out. In the meantime, sorry for the lack of understanding. Does anyone know if there are classes on how to twitter, facebook, and blog all of those social sites? The new age computer networking is really getting away from me.
  38. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Framar I don't know where you went but if you go to the right spot there is no mention of entering your mobile number. It sounds as if you went to add friends by SMS, but that is a guess. Go back a few post where Kristie and I place a link of where to go to reister your name and you should not find that hurdle!

  39. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Tom, the link that asked for my mobile number is the link first you and then Kirstie posted - the www.facebook.com/username.

    I do not have a business page yet. I am trying to figure out where to go to get one.

    Sheesh - I went thru this when I was trying to learn about my personal page - you would think there would be more of a helpful Help place somewhere - I have never been able to find anything even remotely helpful on FB at all...
  40. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

  41. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    OK, Tom - I am on that page - are we an "other business" or a "professional service?" Not a lot of choices (why I haven't signed up for most of the so-called service pages of Google, Yahoo. etc).
  42. Thedra

    Thedra CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I chose other business because I also sell components of framing but it sure sounds more impressive to say professional service. To tell the truth that part of a page is probably the least looked at and has nothing to do with the search optimization. You choose, don't sweat it!

  43. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

  44. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    On the page I am at right now there is a feature called Wall Settings to "Change the default view for fans and control who can post to your Wall."

    For whoever asked about cleaning up a wall..... :)
  45. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God


    Doesn't look like I got one of the short addresses now does it? Do I need a hundred fans or don't I?

    Please - be a fan!!!

    (Gotta go now - will be back this evening to wrestle with it some more) - at least I started a page.

    Oh, and whilst I was writing the description for my business a chat message popped up and FB would NOT let me continue writing the description without answering the chat message.
  46. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    This thread has proved to be a gold mine - I have just added a description of my shop, hours, etc- and a couple of messages and sent out a bunch of invitations and I am so excited - I am just sitting here watching fans pour in (and I did not even send invites to anyone other than locals).

    This is a prime example of the power of social networking (on the Grumble) and why I tried to get someone like Don or Shayla interested in starting a blog on blogspot.com so we could all hold hands and step off into the cyber void together.

    At the moment I have been at the blog for only 2 weeks and mentioned picture frames only once in my most recent post, but I am building, building....
  47. surferbill

    surferbill SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I think almost all retail shops will have to get involved in the social networking craze or risk getting so far behind the tech curve, that they will never catch up.

    For our shopping centers business meeting this Wednesday, we have a web consultant coming in and talking about how to mesh websites, facebook, blogs, and twitter to increase business.
    I'm starting to get the hang of facebook, but I'm still not up to speed on twitter.
  48. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I must be really getting old because Twitter makes no sense to me whatsoever. It must be a mobile generation thing.
  49. Rebecca

    Rebecca SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I found the page cleanup site; it seems that one can hide but not erase (they say you can erase, but it didn't work...) And prevent future posts. Good enough for me!
  50. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    One thing I have found out about Facebook is this: if you have too many FB pages open, like your personal page, your business page and someone else's page - you won't be able to do anything like add photos to an album. Or if you have chat messages unanswered you get frozen out of whatever you are doing.

    Seems to me, Rebecca, if you hide something on your page, only you would be able to unhide it - so it is safe from prying eyes and after the privacy controls are tightened up (thanks to the Canadian Privacy Commissioner) you ought to be able to delete things.
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