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Discussion in 'The Voting Booth' started by The King, Oct 3, 2004.


Which of the following most closely describes your thoughts on Frankenthreads?

  1. Threads on all forums should remain on-topic and moderators should enforce this.

  2. Threads on all forums should remain on-topic, but the moderators should stay out of it.

  3. Threads on most forums should remain on topic, but Warped is a special case.

  4. The occassional Frankenthread is okay, but we get WAY too many 12 page threads.

  5. I actually prefer Frankenthreads on any forum. It's better than television.

  6. Even after following Ron's link above, I have no idea what a Frankenthread is.

    0 vote(s)
  1. The King

    The King SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    First of all, if you don't know what a Frankenthread is, go here and do your homework before you take the poll.

    I have noticed lately that not everyone enjoys it when a thread takes off in a new direction. This poll is meant to gage the climate here regarding Frankenthreads.

    This is a non-binding referendum. It's unlikely the moderators will make any attempt to keep threads "on-topic", especially since the moderators are some of the worst Frankenthreaders on The Grumble.

    Feel free to comment, but let's keep it on-topic. :D
  2. sharonm

    sharonm CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    How many times in real life do we start a conversation, only to have that "frankenthreaded" into something else? It's just a natural part of the conversation/topic. I vote to let Frankenthreads stay.
  3. jframe

    jframe <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Some Grumblers voted the same as I did! I don't know if it is good or bad, but it is amusing.
  4. The King

    The King SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I just remembered. There should have been a second question. (I'm probably a ****-poor pollster.)

    Anyway, the second question should have been: If a topic-starter asks that we remain on-topic for that particular thread, should the request be respected? Rarely, someone starting a thread says something like, "Serious responses only, please." or "Please stay on topic."

    Feel free to comment.
  5. EllenAtHowards

    EllenAtHowards PFG, Picture Framing God

    Frankenthreading keeps you on your toes. Gotta read every light bulb every time or you fall behind and have no idea what is going on at this Virtual Cocktail Party...
  6. Framerguy

    Framerguy PFG, Picture Framing God


    Sharonn has a good point and I agree. We so many times get onto a topic and somebody makes a side comment in their post which jogs somebody else's memory about something off subject and then there we go, into a FT! I find most of them to be OK but they sometimes brew up storms that have nothing to do with the original topic. And, if then they become nasty to boot, I would hope that one of the moderators would step in and drag us back into the stream of the original topic. I do that sometimes (when the FT isn't all that interesting to begin with) but it isn't always done.

    Speaking of Frankenthreads, did you see that Al Franken special on .................. but I digress.

  7. Mike Labbe

    Mike Labbe Member, Former moderator team volunteer

    This poll must be in the spirit of Halloween. Speaking of halloween, what kind of candy do you give out? Does it MAKE it till that evening, or is it all gone the week before?

    PS: I'm just trying to frankenjack this thread [​IMG]
  8. Frank Larson

    Frank Larson CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Like in any conversation our threads can meander over a number of subjects. This is normal and expected. In fact some of our best discussions have been Frankenthreads. I do wish however that when someone has a question that is way off topic (bad boy, Mike, bad bad boy) that the questioner would just start a new thread. I also wish the topic title could be added to or something so I could actually find the threads I'm interested in following. Subtitles?
  9. Baer Charlton

    Baer Charlton SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    If you think about what we do, It is just about as regimented as an accountant.

    Measure, build frame, cut mat, mount art, cut glass, mount mind, fit package, paper back, wire, sticker back, call customer.

    Do that 10 times straight, your ready for a little FT in your life.

  10. Baer Charlton

    Baer Charlton SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Whoops, just thought of my brother in law, who's every conversation is a Frankenthread because of a cumulative effect of being an arsehole, ADHD, AADDD, and just because he loves to pull peoples chains and he doesn't have anything of value to add to the conversation.

    We see him about twice a year. But I love his wife.

    carry on
  11. Gumbogirl

    Gumbogirl Guest

    No, no, Mike, ya buy candy to give out, and then ya get candy to give yourself! I only break into the latter when I am completely out of the former. Very strategic, the placing of the Almond Joy's in the bowl with the Smarties and Tootsie Rolls... [​IMG]

    Sorry, what were y'all talking about? Oh, yeah..

    I can understand the frustration of frankenthreading on serious inquiries, someone with a real problem or discussion that is underway. But, there are two exceptions? Anything on warped is open season for FT, and quite fun for those who are in need of a break from the daily grind, as Baer just mentioned. The other time it seems welcome is the tension breaker FT, and boy, has that been a much needed one lately.

    I would just like to formally apologize for any FT'ing I have contributed to, sometimes inadvertently. It's the Blond GRITS Mensa meetings I've been attending lately, they're messing with my head and my G time! [​IMG]
  12. Kit

    Kit SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    If someone asks a serious question, it is only good manners either to answer it or wait until someone with the necessary expertise has supplied an answer before wandering off on a Frankenthread.

    Usually that's what happens.

    I agree with Sharon. This whole forum is more like a conversation among friends than an "Ask the Experts" panel.

    Jara, I get cranky when people diss Mensa. You weren't doing that, were you?

    See, Ron? Like that.

  13. Kit

    Kit SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Say WHAT???

  14. The King

    The King SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I agree with Kit, because it seems like the safest thing to do and, this time, I really do.

    If someone has a question or a concern, I feel a moral obligation to at least pretend to be interested before I start another dog story.

    In turn, I think it's only good manners for everyone else to ask a dog question now and then.
  15. Jay H

    Jay H PFG, Picture Framing God

    I find myself drinking more and more diet drinks. I used to hate the chemical taste but for some reason I have been drinking tons of Diet Dr. Pepper and Diet Mt. Dew.

    Heck I even have some Bud Light in the fridge right now.

    Carry on.
  16. Gumbogirl

    Gumbogirl Guest

    Kit, not a chance. I would find myself single or close to it if I made such disparaging marks about Mensa.

    Nope, I was poking fun at a thread (or two?) on Warped that made mention of Grits (girls raised in the south), me possibly being incredibly smart, and I just threw in the blonde for good measure.

    I am almost always poking fun (at myself always) when I say things around here, but since I am relatively new, it is often misunderstood, I'm sure. That doesn't seem to stop me. [​IMG]

    Er, Jay are ya thirsty?
  17. JPete

    JPete <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    That was a tough choice, lessor of all evils so I could see the results. Wow, I wasn't alone.
  18. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God


    What do you charge to lease an evil? Is it as good a business as framing? Do you have to pay for samples?

    Pat :D :D
  19. The King

    The King SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Jeannette, on MY polls you don't have to vote to see the results.

    But thanks for voting. I expect 100% participation or there's going to be **** to pay.
  20. Marion P

    Marion P CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Being a semi new person on the grumble I find that ALL topics are interesting, but having a frankenthread ( I now know what the word means now, thanks Charles) thrown in from time to time makes makes alot more interesting, I agree with the above as in normal conversation, we are always getting thrown off track and changing the subject, thats how we get to know things, so why not have the same in vitural conversation!

    Yum candy corn, tootsie rolls and I miss reeces peanut butter cups. (Things you can't buy in OZ)

    In OZ Halloween isn't so big, its just starting to take off in the decorations department. I may get 4 or 5 kids knocking and most of the neighbors won't buy candy. If Christmas has scooges, then what does Halloween have??

    Love the frankenthreads!
  21. Mitch

    Mitch <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    "Wait! Wait! Listen to me!...We Don't HAVE to Be just sheep!" Gary Larson

    My suggestion is that we all can be moderators, we can frankenthread like they do, we can put the subject back on track, we can ignore what's happening (does anyone really care) or we can start another thread with the same or a similar topic.

    Where can I vote for snickers?

    I quess nobody asked for my suggestion. Isn't this what it's really all about?

    Mith just waiting to give a suggestion to someone who doesn't want it.
  22. Mitch

    Mitch <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    i was a little mithed
  23. Baer Charlton

    Baer Charlton SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    "Oh Mith, oh Mith, you dropped your . . ."

    Oh never mind.

    Marion, Spread smooth p-nut butter on a cracker, lay a little wafer of chocolate on top. Microwave for about 12 seconds. Reeses.

    Oz drink for Hollow weinie:

    2oz Cream de Cocoa
    1oz Kirsvassa
    1oz 151 white rum
    5oz Orange juice

    8oz tootsie roll pop. [​IMG]
  24. Ron's dog's flea's brain on acid

    Ron's dog's flea's brain on acid MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    To perceive the mental constructs used for self-control is to become unstable in your self-control. Perceiving the mental material constituting control, you build up an explicitly conscious model of your own power to control your will and thoughts, but this model has disconcerting dynamics. You see control, you model control... and you interfere with control.

    In doing so, you experiment with control dynamics and gain scientific understanding of the illusory aspect of the power of control. The epistemological theory of 'scientific positivism': we observe, we then theorize, and finally we have more power over the world.
  25. JPete

    JPete <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Pat, my evils go for a high price. The least of all of them is the embarrassment for not checking my post. The most is the price one pays to the spelling gods. Both are free. ;)
  26. Kit

    Kit SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Oh, yeah???

    I know John Ranes called you "the nice lady from Sunday", but there's still a limit to what you can get away with.

  27. JPete

    JPete <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Darn, caught again. I just couldn't think of your name Capy or is it Cappy. You do have a memory.

    Since I've met the Captain and John Ranes how many other persons does that connect me with on the G who have actually met them and so on.?! [​IMG]
  28. ERIC

    ERIC SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I just hate that I have to be the one to bring the conversation back to the topic - Oh, never mind. [​IMG]
  29. Rozmataz

    Rozmataz SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Gees, these frankenthreaded posts that go to so many pages drive me nuts! Maybe we could have a "gavel" "case closed" event that occurs to end it. Or have an "auction" thread site - this thread will be open for "x" minutes/hours/days - and then will be closed. I must be nuts - I am posting like a mad-woman this a.m. Gotta go get some work done. Really.
  30. Bill Henry-

    Bill Henry- SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Hey, everybody, this is about Frankenthreads!

    Stay on topic!
  31. Rozmataz

    Rozmataz SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Eric - I was just thinking the same thing. When everyone drifts off into frankenthread never-endingland - and you want to bring it back. Ouch.

    Then, talking about Sharnm's comment that this happens in face-to-face conversations in groups of people - it happens. We have a group where this happens alot and one of the group worked at our local LPGA tournament and had one of those "QUIET" signs for when the golfer is putting - and when it gets really bad with either "frankenthreading" or "interrupting" - the Quiet Sign comes out! It is pretty amusing!

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