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Hanging Options

Discussion in 'Grumble Archive pre 2004 Topics' started by Cookie, Sep 18, 1999.

  1. Cookie

    Cookie <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Just when I decided to never hang pictures again, I said OK to a good customer.(yes I will charge well for this) The problem --- She has a new home or I should probably say mansion. The office is all paneled in a beautiful cherry wood. I told her I don't want to be the one to put a hole in that paneling. There is crown molding at the top and the ceiling is also cherrywood. Is attaching it to a hook on the crown moulding the best way? I sure don't want to damage the wood. Any place they hang a picture there would have to be there forever. Any good ideas? Thanks
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  2. Exframer

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    I couldn't resist this.

  3. MerpsMom

    MerpsMom <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    [​IMG] Enjoying life, are you?
  4. po' framer

    po' framer MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    (Ex)framer, are you perhaps in the mood to do a little consulting work? I tried to send you an email but got some kind of wierd message about relays being booted out of the line.

    I'm not ignoring your thread, cookie, but I don't really have the answer. If it were me I'd use a good studfinder and put the holes in the panelling so that the picture was really well-mounted. Such is life.

    A hole can easily be patched by a good finish carpenter (or a good framer, for that matter, I'd opine) if they moved the picture and couldn't live with a couple of holes. Chances are, if they moved that particular pic, they'd put another one right over the space again anyway cause it would probably look strange to them with nothing in it. So in actuality you're just helping make the house livable, and good thing that it's you doing it instead of someone who couldn't care less about it.

    Do most people offer a delivery and mounting service? I recall seeing a thread a while back about that, but kind of tuned it out because it seemed to be sarcastic.
  5. JPete

    JPete <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    This is probably one of those cases you should purchase the short-term insurance at the expense of the customer of course. Maybe you always have that or does your regular liability cover the distance. I think it would be a good idea to maybe suggest you mark the place for hanging and ask them to have their carpenter put in the rest. Picture rail can have things hanging but you never know about todays stuff. I don't know anyone who wants those cords a hangin' even ex-framer style. [​IMG]

    Po Framer....just because they appear Sarcastic doesn't always mean to have been intended that way. Well....maybe a few!

    [This message has been edited by JPete (edited 09-18-99).]
  6. Cookie

    Cookie <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Ex-Framer I like your hanging option except I feel like its me at the end of the rope [​IMG]
  7. Mel

    Mel MGF, Master Grumble Framer


    You have probably taken into consideration the fact that those crown mouldings may or may not be very well secured. JPete has the answer, I think.
  8. Cookie

    Cookie <span style="color: red"><b><i>Charter Member</i><

    Bringing back an older thread here. Just to let you know we hung those pictures yesterday. Final solultion, a screw-eye in the top moulding, with a touch of nail polish on it to help disguise it. Strong fishing line for smaller pictures, 2 screw-eyes and picture wire for the large one. This was a bit of an ordeal. The cielings are 15ft. high. Fortunately I have a helpful husband who climbs ladders, uses the drill etc.
    Of course the next problem is that the tops of the smaller ones really hang out from the wall. We used lots of "Quakehold" to help keep them in. We'll see what happens.

    Looks great, customer is very happy we are exhausted. Took 4 hours to hang 8 pictures. Charged by the hour, but not enough! I'm going back to hang pictures in their guest house this week, but these should be normal. Next customer that asks if I hang pictures, I think I'll say no! [​IMG]
  9. Bruce McElhaney

    Bruce McElhaney Guest

    Cookie, Be careful! As an ex-carpenter, I can tell you with certainty that crown moldings are not strong enough to securely hold larger/heavier picture frames. They are usually installed with the minimum amount of finish nails as possible.

  10. ArtLady

    ArtLady SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Hanging fine art is a part of selling fine art.

    If a piece is large you might want to go with strap hangers on the sides. This balances the load and discourages the frame from warping.

    We have been hanging the art we sell for seven years (since we openned) and have never had a problem. It is a part of our regular gallery service. It keeps them coming back and makes us unique. Our policy is that any purchase over $500 we will deliver and hang within a twenty mile radius. Most of our clients do not want to bother and it maintains domestic tranquillity ie the intaller did it. That is okay they will be back. They aren't blaming each other and having a reason to postpone those future art buying decisions.

  11. Cheryl Crocker CPF GCF

    Cheryl Crocker CPF GCF CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    We hang pics..free if it's a substancial purchase you made at my shop or are a valued client...otherwise $100/hr per person. We are covered in transit and for certain hanging mishaps. I'd hammer a big, fat nail into that wall and hang, baby, hang! Our first job was awful...hanging an 8x6 canvas on a rock fireplace we had to drill into with special bits. The woman, after consuming much alcohol, decided we were idiots and insisted on doing all the measuring and math for hanging this thing. She fell over the couch and onto the canvas at one point, blaming us, of course...while her husband hid in the kitchen. Needless to say the piece was all off center and too low. We doubled our rates after having to go back up to the witch's condo and drill more holes in her fireplace to correct the work. We've even gone to trailers to hang art. Try hanging the '80's airbrushed posters in plastic frames into fake wood paneling.
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