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How to mount thin paper art

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by charming, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. charming

    charming Grumbler

    I had a customer with original art on thin paper, who wanted the art to float 1/4" off the surface of a mat.

    So I cut 1" x 1" pieces of white foam core and attached them to the back of the art paper and then attached the art (and the mounting points) to the mat board.

    I use white 1" framers tape to attach the paper to the foam core, but I am wondering if there is a better way. The art wasn't expensive, it was for a movie set, but it was an original. I rolled the framers tape when I attached it.
     
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  2. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I see that you have been registered in the grumble for 10 years with very few posts. Am I reading too much into your post that the art is on "thin paper"? If it is equivalent to basic office paper, it can be handled easily with any number of processes.
    As for cutting 1x1 squares of foam core, why did you not use a board that is just slightly smaller than the paper with beveled edges to camouflage the board? I would have attached the item to the foam board with either hinges or dry mounted it. Rolled tape is not a preferred way of mounting.
     
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  3. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    The key principle with hinging or any other fixing is that the hinge should be weaker than the art.

    If the 'Framer's Tape' you mention is the same Framer's Tape I'm thinking of, it's quite heavy stuff and
    should never be used for hinging art.

    I would approach the problem as Jerome ^ said. ;)
     
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  4. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Size? Art medium?
    If the medium is stable and not textured, maybe a DCO using acrylic would be best. Trim a slightly-undersized foam-board backer and place layers of polyester batting under it. Fit tightly to compress the batting and hold the art in position.
     
  5. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Hi, Charming. Jim's question of size and art medium is an important one to answer.

    Also, if you haven't already found this, The FrameTek site is an awesome help:

    https://frametek.com/

    Another thing to know: Not with originals, like this, but with some digital prints, both MountCor and KoolTack (which also comes in matboard thickness) can be used for this sort of float.
     
  6. charming

    charming Grumbler


    I assume you think I am some kind of communist because I haven't posted a lot in ten years. Well, I'll just assume you have too much time on your hands. Really don't need negativity on this board!
     
  7. charming

    charming Grumbler


    I should have been more clear. this was an original on paper (consistency between rice paper and print paper), but it was purposely torn in places. So I couldn't use a solid piece of foam core behind it. Initially I tried that but the white backing showed thru too much. By reducing the size of the white foam core attachment area to 1 x 1" pieces, the white showed through less. Not perfect but with movie work I don't always have to time to plan perfectly.

    The Framers Tape worked out ok because it pealed off the backing of the art easily when I had to replace the mounting method.
     
  8. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    Speaking of negativity on this board... Your response to jfeig's post was WAAAAY more negative than anything that could have been in his post.

    Seriously, lighten up a bit. He wasn't flaming you... like I am.:rolleyes:
     
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  9. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    So, are you wanting ideas specifically for paper art that is temporarily mounted? From your notes, it sounds like it's just for the set, then returned to it's original condition.
     
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  10. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    IMHO, the artist did not think ahead on the mechanics of mounting when they created the item.
     
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  11. charming

    charming Grumbler


    Do they ever? How many times does an artist sign within the bottom 1/16" of an original that needs to be matted?
     
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  12. charming

    charming Grumbler


    When I have to work with original art for a movie/tv set, often the original will be given back to the artist as payment for using the art. So it should be done properly.
     
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  13. charming

    charming Grumbler


    I sincerely doubt your opinion. I was right, you are wrong.
     
  14. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    This afternoon, I was thinking, how about just putting it in a correctly-sized mylar sleeve and sticking that to the backing. But then I realized it would glare on camera.
    If you ever have one that's not super thin paper and has room for them, you could hold it with tiny round magnets. But if what you did worked, and was quickly undone, maybe it's fine.
     
  15. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Why didn't you inform us that it was a movie prop with intentional ware (holes and tares) from the beginning? Mounting to a sheet of acrylic with the same beveled edges would have been my response. Yes, I own a table saw that would have beveled the edges. Or the same color mount board attached to foam board to form the riser.
     
  16. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Yes, actually there are several better ways.

    Realizing that you may not be aware of protocol, I will kindly suggest that, next time you want advice from the friendly professionals here, it would be better to not kill your own thread in mid-discussion.
     
  17. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    Charming, indeed.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    charming. :D

    What you have to understand is that this Forum is largely populated by a bunch of idiots.
    But a bunch of idiots who have a great deal of experience and expertise.

    Why ask a question if you are going to take exception to the answer? o_O
     
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  19. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

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  20. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    Neil!!! THAT is EXACTLY the same image I was going to post!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

    Apparently, great minds and all that...:confused:
     
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  21. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I rest my case. :rolleyes:
     
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  22. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

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    (sorry to go off topic, but I just finished framing 300 mirrors and my mind wanders...:confused:)
     
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  23. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    What happens when you put 100 guitars in front of 300 mirrors????:confused::eek:
     
  24. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

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    Last edited: Feb 9, 2019
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  25. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    And don't forget idiotry is international.
     
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