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Is the fax machine dead?

Discussion in 'Software, Computers, CMC's Techie Stuff' started by JFeig, Feb 22, 2018.

  1. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Apparently not in the field of medicine. I had a CT test done at a hospital ordered by my doctor.
    1. I arrived at the appointed time............. There was no record of the doctor ordering the test. It took 45 minutes for the office to fax the order (the lines were busy).
    2. I received a copy of the test results in 2 weeks via USPS. At 3 weeks I called the doctors office a second time to see if the results were read. They had not received the results.
    3. I was told to fax them a copy. I do not have a fax anymore. They do not have the facilities to accept a copy via E-mail!!! Or send them a copy via USPS.
     
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  2. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    We still get about as many orders by fax as by email.

    We have some customers that will not accept invoices by email, but will by fax - they tend to lose things in the email abyss, but the fax machine spits them out and there then it's hard to ignore them.

    BTW, we don't use a conventional fax machine - it's all e-fax. As far as our system is concerned, it's an email address (1-222-333-4444@faxservice.com) and we send it as an email. The service converts it to a fax and sends it on.
     
  3. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    I still send some faxes. Then again, I also don't use a cel phone. Crawling back under my rock....
     
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  4. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I still have one, and it does come in handy now and then. Mostly I use it as a copier nowadays. Most of the faxes I receive are junk (ads) that show up overnight offering business loans or low cost vacation trips.
    :cool: Rick
     
  5. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    You're stuck in the framing world. Mobile phones are "cell" phones (though I'm not sure why)...
     
  6. Ylva

    Ylva SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Seems to be the medical world. We get eye checks every year. They cannot scan the prescription but can fax it. Our fax machine died and won't get replaced.
     
  7. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer



    :)I know!! I know!!

    "Cell" is an abbreviation of "cellular" which is the term used to describe the network of interlinked towers forming the mobile 'phone network. In Australia we usually say "mobile 'phone" rather than "cell 'phone" or many now just say "'phone" because many younger people don't have landline 'phones any more.
     
  8. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I had a fax way back. I found I was getting an inordinate amount of junk faxes, usually at night.
    One night the paper jammed in the wee small hours but the junk kept coming. So much so that the
    machine literally burst. So I heaved it out with the rubbish and never missed it. :D
     
  9. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I found out today that you can send and receive faxes via VOIP services such as magicJack®. A magicJack is $89 for 3 years or $39 for the first year including the device.
     
  10. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    I thought I saw one recently in the DoDo Bird Cabinet of Extinct Curiosities right between an Irish Elk and a Buggy Whip and behind a Telegraph.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I have never owned a fax machine and the three or four faxes
    I have had to send in the last 30 years were sent from the UPS store.
     
  12. Terry Hart cpf

    Terry Hart cpf SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I do have a couple of vendors that seem to lose about every other fax I send them. I guess they wish the fax would go away but I like the hard copy for the record and I don't like having to re type everything into an email or online ordering system.
     
  13. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    What would the ordinate amount be?
     
  14. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    A customer of mine once had Prospeero's problem of getting junk faxes. He asked one copany to stop and when they didn't he took drastic action.

    He waited until he knew they would be closed then used his fax to send them a request to stop pestering him, followed by a dozen or so sheets of black paper which burned up all their toner. They stopped.
     
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  15. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    If you tape 3-4 pieces of paper together, than tape the top of the first page to the bottom of the last page, thus creating a loop, theoretically you will send infinite pages.
     
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  16. Mike Labbe

    Mike Labbe Member, Former moderator team volunteer

    We disconnected our dedicated fax number 11 months ago, and never looked back. Not a single request for that number since, and no more piles of spam faxes every day. Its almost obsolete, like telex, phone booths, or telegraphs. Most places do stuff by email these days, but faxes can be done that way too if there is an absolute need to do so. With most places switched or switching to VOIP now, faxes arent necessarily as reliable because they are using digital tech from their analog world. This extra digital to analog conversion also causes the machine to go at a slower 9600 baud speed.
     
  17. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    So THAT's why a 2 page fax can take 2-3 minutes to transmit.

    FWIW our attorney only faxed documents until very recently. Now they will use email, but only send scanned images, no direct to PDF that retains characters. I'm guessing they feel it's less likely to be tampered with that way? May be the same reason the medical profession still uses fax (or direct connection, but not email).
     
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  18. Kirstie

    Kirstie PFG, Picture Framing God

    We still have a dedicated fax number. I recently replaced the fax machine with an all in one so that I have an office scanner, and better copier handy by my desk. But we still use a laser printer in the office for everyday needs. I thought about ditching the fax line, but between a recent real estate transaction and Valley wanting faxed ready-made orders, it still sees regular use. Between the 44" Epson, the high end scanner, and all the other printers in the shop, we are awash in too much stuff!

    Speaking of which, we will soon be selling our Epson 7800, 24". Anyone in the Bay Area interested? It's been a good, steady printer for the last 5 years, but now it's time to go larger.
     
  19. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Our FAX at home still works, but we seldom receive FAXes anymore. I can't remember the last time we used it to send something.

    My wife works for an Allstate insurance agency, and they say FAX is much more secure than any internet-related method of communication. Their company policy prohibits sending personal information by email, in order to avoid liability from hacking.
     
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  20. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I understand, and agree to the extent that fax is direct (i.e. fax machine makes direct call to another real fax machine, does the old fashioned handshake and throw bits and bytes back and forth to each other). However, I bet 90% of faxes sent today are actually analog/digital conversions, and as easily breakable as email. Assuming someone is listening and really, really wants to know what you're saying... (not a concern for 99.99999% of frame shop related business, I'm willing to bet).
     
  21. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    FAX machines may be obsolete, but all-in-one printers suffice where a document needs to be sent to an entity requiring a FAX for security reasons.
     
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