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Suggestion Joining two big frames at customer's location

NYJim

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Hello,

I have a project: I need to join two frames- sizes about 60 by 80 at customer location. ( can't bring them joined ).
How would you do that?
My first thought was to bring 8 wises and set it up there but may be there are better way...
Thank you
 
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munnframeworks

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I would put bisquits in all corners , use glue on site and join with
Zipbolt UT 11.600 Maxi Mitre Connector
 

FramerCat

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I have an Inmes 2 manual underpinner that I can take with me for jobs like this.

Ed
 

munnframeworks

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
You put a wood biscuit in bottom of float a mini biscuit at back with glue. also 23 ga micro pinner to hold in place till dry ( holes are invisible),
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
I once framed a very large canvas at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver Colorado.
This was in about 1980.
I brought the cut frame pieces and the stretcher sticks to the hotel and we had to remove the panel in the ceiling of the elevator to get them to the room.
I also had to stretch the canvas on site and install it in the frame.:eek:
I stretched the canvas while the frame was set up in the vises.
I glued and joined the frame in 4 vises and I drilled the corners and hammered in finishing nails and then used putty to fill the nail holes.
This was how we joined all frames back then, drilling, finishing nails and a little putty to fill the nail holes.

You can put nails in only on the top and bottom if you like so they won't be seen but I always alternated corners, drill and nail on the right, drill and nail on the right.
That way any stress on a leg of the frame is reduced and nobody will see the puttied nail holes.
You can also cross nail but I never did that.

If it's a canvas on stretchers going into the frame, mine was and I'm assuming your's are because of the floater frame, the canvas can be screwed to the floater from the back with counter sunk screws and that will reinforce the frame and make it one solid unit.
I'm not sure how they ever were able to move the piece that I framed out of that room at the hotel if they had to later on, but my job was done...;)
 
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Pat Murphey

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
This is a detail biscuit joiner, no longer available, but see below for an ebay offer. It's perfect for joining frames. Sears online still carries the R3 mini biscuits. I joined a 6 foot by 9 foot frame for a customer in their living room using them. Fast setting Maxim glue allows you to hold each corner manually until setting, if you can figure out a strap clamp set up.

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https://www.ebay.com/p/Craftsman-Detail-Biscuit-Joiner-917550/1421882516

https://www.sears.com/wolfcraft-90-pc-of-r3-mini-biscuit/p-00929097000P
 
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MATTHEW HALE

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
This is a detail biscuit joiner, no longer available, but see below for an ebay offer. It's perfect for joining frames. Sears online still carries the R3 mini biscuits. I joined a 6 foot by 9 foot frame for a customer in their living room using them. Fast setting Maxim glue allows you to hold each corner manually until setting, if you can figure out a strap clamp set up.

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https://www.ebay.com/p/Craftsman-Detail-Biscuit-Joiner-917550/1421882516

https://www.sears.com/wolfcraft-90-pc-of-r3-mini-biscuit/p-00929097000P
well aint that just the cutest thing ever
 

bruce papier

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
The detail biscuit joiner is a handy tool if you can dig one up. You can put a biscuit in the back flange fairly easily. Putting one in the upright portion of the frame could be tricky. The moulding may be too narrow to take a biscuit. I'd practice in any case.
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
Vices, Cornerweld wood glue, 23guauge nail pinner (portable air compressor) or drill with brad nails & drill.
Almost exactly as I did in my previous post about a job from 1980 at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver.

I used the vises, Cornerweld, a drill and finishing nails instead of a nail gun and compressor.
I was joining all frames this way from 1969 in Chicago until about 1992 in Phoenix.
No need to go out and buy more equipment to join 2 frames.

We didn't have CMCs and we didn't have vnailers and we didn't even have Fletcher wall cutters back then.
At our shop now we have A CMC, multiple wall cutters, 2 heat vacuum presses, cold mount roller presses, a Laser cutter, 2 vnailers, 4 saws, a new large printer, 5 computers, etc. etc.....:confused:
Times have changed but the basics of framing are still there.
 

CB Art & Framing

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Almost exactly as I did in my previous post about a job from 1980 at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver.

I used the vises, Cornerweld, a drill and finishing nails instead of a nail gun and compressor.
I was joining all frames this way from 1969 in Chicago until about 1992 in Phoenix.
No need to go out and buy more equipment to join 2 frames.

We didn't have CMCs and we didn't have vnailers and we didn't even have Fletcher wall cutters back then.
At our shop now we have A CMC, multiple wall cutters, 2 heat vacuum presses, cold mount roller presses, a Laser cutter, 2 vnailers, 4 saws, a new large printer, 5 computers, etc. etc.....:confused:
Times have changed but the basics of framing are still there.
I still use vices & nails for odd shaped or shadow box mouldings
 

David Waldmann

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
How did they get the art in? floater is not much bigger than the artwork
Floaters are most often used on canvases. Therefore the canvas could be brought in a roll, keyed stretchers knocked down.

Next thing you need (as I already said!) is a Hoffmann'd frame!!
 

NYJim

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Floaters are most often used on canvases. Therefore the canvas could be brought in a roll, keyed stretchers knocked down.

Next thing you need (as I already said!) is a Hoffmann'd frame!!
What is Hoffman'd frame?
I'm using floaters and the art already in the apartment stretched....
 
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