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Laster Toner Fugitivity

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by shayla, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Had an artist bring in prints/cards to sell, and I could tell they weren't pigment based ink. Looked like simple photocopies to me, so she called her printer store. He said they use laser toner, but had no idea about the quality of it. I bought several cards for the rack, but sent her away with the prints. Seems unwise to sell art that will fade soon (even with good glass)? But is it possible there's laser toner that does last well?
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  2. DVieau2

    DVieau2 PFG, Picture Framing God

    Color laser prints will last a long time, I would say as long as pigment ink.

    I've owned two laser printers. an HP and a Canon CLC. The color fidelity was never as good as ink or wet photo prints although you could get very bright saturated colors. Skin tones were impossible.

    Because of cost, laser color is used mostly for document printing and stuff that needed two side printing like brochures and calendars.

    Often people would use cheap paper and that reduces the quality appearance.

    Some times they will use coated paper inappropriate for the printer and the toner wouldn't stick.

    If the cards look good and the toner isn't flaking off I would say sell them.

    I would be fussier about the prints. An 11x17 color laser print will cost about $2.00 at the quick print store.
  3. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated, and I'll do more homework. Is there a store called Quick Print, or do you just mean in general?

    The rest of my prints are pigment ink on cotton, printed by locals with Epson and HP printers. Those with a clue will please here forgive me for looking up the difference between ink and toner.
    From these links, it sounds like toner is plastic, with no pigment added, and also not very light fast. Maybe I can convince her to get them printed with pigment ink.


  4. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    When color photocopies first became available an artist customer and friend of mine dashed down to his local
    print shop and got some of his work done on A4 paper. He was very exited about them. I wasn't so exited as I had
    the same reservations on lightfastness. I used to mount and laminate the copies and one day he brought me a reject
    copy which I put in my sunny windowsill all summer. I covered half the print. Much to my surprise there was no fading
    and no difference between the covered/uncovered parts. Which I thought was quite remarkable. The sun in the window
    was very fierce for several hours per day.

    That may have no real relevance, but just goes to show things don't always do what you expect. In a good way. :rolleyes:
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  5. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

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