Web-based commerce has blurred the lines between manufacturers, wholesalers, retailers, and consumers. It is a fact of life in commerce today. Both of these are major suppliers in our industry. They have served our wholesale framing needs for decades, and at competitive prices. I believe history favors their intentions. Their sales policies, web-based catalogs, and posted prices do not cause alarm for me. If my customers are so interested in learning what I pay for materials, I am not concerned, because I still provide value they can not duplicate by misrepresenting themselves in order to buy the framing materials. Mr. Butwinski and Mr. Ackerman both made pretty good arguments for their policies. Competition is a good thing, and nothing here has reduced my opinion of these major suppliers. I wish them prosperity in this difficult market.