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Manners

D_Derbonne

PFG, Picture Framing God
Cell phone conversations are one thing but the constant texting is quite another.

I stopped to let a pedestrian cross the walkway in a parking lot the other day. She was so busy texting that she nearly walked into my car.
What is so important that we can't put the phone down for a few minutes while we run an errand?
 

Paul N

In Corner
You would be proud of me. self imposed rule i have on myself is unless its an emergency, don't call me while i'm at work. all of my friends, family, and fellow students know this. i do this out of respect for my boss and customers. but by the same token i don't want to be bothered while i'm in class or with my family over work related issues.
I am proud you!!:thumbsup:

I personally never answer a phone when I am with a customer.

Just ask Chickie and Nicole....last week both got the temporary cold shoulder.....:p:p
 

dougj

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
It is amazing the number of people who will walk right in front of a vehicle into a cross walk and then yell at the driver who did not see them.( or behind a vehicle with their back-up lights on)
I once stopped at a crosswalk for a Mother and child and heard the Mother say to the child, Make sure the driver makes eye contact with you so you know that he see's you before you cross. CHEERS TO MOM :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

blackiris

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
SPEAKING OF PEOPLE WALKING IN FRONT OF YOU........

I was in CHICAGO yesterday visiting the Art Institute.....PEOPLE IN
CHICAGO SUCK!!! They dont even wait for the cross walk ...they apparently have a DEATH WISH.....OR like to play chicken with cars.........:faintthud:

One douchebag crossed in front of me when we were in bumper to bumper traffic in LSD........idiot stick actually hit the hood of my car with his hands when I went to move forward......

I yelled out the window...."You'd look even better with tire tracks on your back......."

Can't help it....I'm hormonal......:D
 

shayla

WOW Framer
You're so beautiful when you're homicidal. :smiley:

I don't get that, either. The mother who walked across
on a red light in front of me, pushing her baby in its
stroller!!!!!!! Gah.

It that kid lives to breed, it'll be a miracle.
And perhaps a tragedy as well, given the
blinding gall of it's progenitor.

What else?

Oh yes. The two guys who ran a red light
on bikes last week. In front of me and
all the other cars on a green. :faintthud:
 

Framar

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
People on bicycles get so mad at cars all the time and yet I can count on the fingers of one hand how many I have ever seen obeying the rules of the road.

I almost fell over the other day when I saw a guy on a bicycle actually signal a turn with hand signals and all.

Good thing I was strapped in.
 

Grey Owl

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I am proud you!!:thumbsup:

I personally never answer a phone when I am with a customer.

Just ask Chickie and Nicole....last week both got the temporary cold shoulder.....:p:p
I normally don't, but I did answer the phone when our son Christopher was taking Janet and me out for our 40th anniversary. I looked at the phone number, and excused myself answered and walked out of the restaurant to take the call. It was one of my out of state commercial accounts, and I had been waiting for the approval / disapproval of a $6,000 plus PO.

Christopher was probably right that I should not have answered, but....at least Janet understood.
 

KL Smith

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
Just had two (ahem) ladies into the gallery. They go into the back part of the gallery and ten seconds later I hear a door open and close. I go back and one is sitting waiting for her friend. Where is your friend says I? She's in the bathroom, says she.

Now this is an unmarked door which just as easily could have been a staircase, closet or storage room. So, they must have decided to open a closed door to see what was there and decided they should just help themselves to use my washroom WITHOUT even asking!

I voiced my displeasure by indicating it was a private area of the gallery and that it is just plain rude to do this without asking first. She gives me the "what are you on drugs" look.

Manners? Yeah right.
 

David N Waldmann

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
People on bicycles get so mad at cars all the time and yet I can count on the fingers of one hand how many I have ever seen obeying the rules of the road.

I almost fell over the other day when I saw a guy on a bicycle actually signal a turn with hand signals and all.
Ditto. Saturday I saw a guy on a bicycle waiting at a red light, behind a car. Guess he didn't realize that roads have been specifically designed so that there is room enough for a bicycle to get between the cars that are driving on them...
 

Bron

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Not to hijack an already stolen thread, one of the reasons cyclists disobey traffic laws, is that they routinely get so much abuse from autoists, and it is safer sometimes to be a little illegal. Not running redlights with out looking, but if I run a red, I'm also getting out of the way of the cars. When the cars are willing to concede me some rights on the road, I'll be much better about the rules of the road.

In your car, 2-3000 lbs., me and bike, 200 lbs. and I'm not on my cell and eating french fries.

Just sayin ...
 

Bron

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
David,

I will act like a car, and "fill" the lane if the intersection is weird or I'm turning left. You all need to understand that the cyclist is another vehicle, just like that lady pokin along with her blinker on; most of you don't try and blast her off the road, jeering and blaring your horn.

PFUI!
 

framelady64

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I live in a quiet neighborhood with not a lot of traffic.In the evenings when I go home I go for a walk.I had a jerk almost run over me because he was on his cellphone.I jumped over into a yard,I was already on the curb that he ran all over.He then turned around and proceeded to yell at me that it was dangerous to be walking in the street.I cant repeat on here what I said to him,it wasnt very ladylike whereas he took off squealing his tires.What a jerk.:nuts:
 

David N Waldmann

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
David,

I will act like a car, and "fill" the lane...
Sorry, guess my sarcasm didn't come across the first time...
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Bron, I agree with you about the wisdom of
taking up room as a vehicle. A bike is considered
one, and it's appropriate to be between cars if
you're turning left or crossing at a light. But those
guys who ran that red in front of our cars had a
death wish for sure.

I make a point to give cyclists a lot of room.
A lady who lived two doors from here was killed
while cycling several years ago. The group she
was with was riding on a country road, and some
goofball decided to pass a vehicle near them.
They all hurried to get to the shoulder as fast as
they could, but Anne's tire caught on another woman's,
and she fell into the lane of traffic. If that driver
had just waited a few seconds to go by, she'd still
be alive.
 

pwalters

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I was driving down a two lane road that has a 35 mph speed limit. I passed a bike rider (since he was at least 4 feet outside of the designated bike area, I made sure that I was in the oncoming lane so that I gave him enough of a berth) within about 150 feet of a dedicated right turn lane that I was going to make. There was a car in front of me that slowed tremendously, so obviously so did I. Lance Dumbstrong got p*ssed at me for slowing (this is a dedicated right turn lane, so there wasn't as much room and he had to slow as well) so he had the audacity to slap the back of my SUV. Because I was obeying the traffic laws. Obviously, we had to stop and have a little talk and in his haste he didn't realize that I was quite a bit bigger than him before he made his mistake. Let's just say that I made it very clear that he didn't own the road like he thought. He apologized profusely but clearly thought he was going to get away with it. I guess if I were someone else, he would have. Hopefully he thinks twice before doing something that stupid again.

Notice that this isn't a bike rider rant that indicts all riders, just an example that there are stupid people in every walk of life. Don't even get me started on jetskiers!
 

John Golden

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
Ok, here is another manners topic other than cell phone users and cyclists. Pants on the ground. What happened to keep your shoes tied, your shirt tucked in, and your belt on? I really do not care to see your boxers. Pull up your pants.
 

D_Derbonne

PFG, Picture Framing God
The oversized pants trend seems to be on the decline here.
I'm not sure it's any worse than skin tight hip huggers that we wore when I was a teenager.
We also wore skirts that were shorter than shirts I wear sometimes.

That type of thing is perhaps poor taste but not really bad manners.

Bad manners in a lot of instances seem to be a result of people that are in a hurry. We all seem to be in a hurry these days.

Why is that?
 

D_Derbonne

PFG, Picture Framing God
LOL! Mar, I don't have time to answer my own kwestion.
 

Bron

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I rant about bicycles, but on the issue of manners, there used to be a thing called common courtesy; basically "do on to others as you would have done to you".

Now, we seem to have "where's mine?, and how do I get more?" ... and this applies to the road. May haps we should all be a little less concerned with our "rights" and a little more with the impact we have on others "rights".

Yeah, like that's going to happen ...

Though I am thrilled to hear of the Doctor going away for 5 years after assaulting 2 cyclists with his car. Interwebs, you could google it.
 

SportShots

CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
"Excuse me, Sir. No food in the shop please. Can you step outside and finish your sandwich and then come back in?"

Buy a cell phone jammer/blocker. You plug it in, turn it on and no cell phones operate within a certain distance. The ones we have are good for more than 60 feet. A number of restaurant owners I know and a couple movie theatres use them. Put them in and keep the phones quiet.

Then there are the people who go through doors and never check behind them to see if someone else is coming in so they can keep the door from slamming on them. Should be second nature to be polite and check.
 

howdytex

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Just had a "lady" come in the front door and just before she walked in she took a good long drag of her ciggerette. as she was walking to the counter she's blowing rings out her mouth. i have no idea what her lung capacity is but when she spoke to me smoke was still coming out of her lungs.

I DON'T SMOKE. and i don't want your nasty second hand smoke. have some respect.

so now our little show room smells like an ashtray. :vomit:
 

blackiris

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
HOLY COW........I would have promptly thrown up on my frame counter........just thinking about it makes me wanna :vomit:
ICK!
 

Pangolin

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I have a customer that must let her clothes smoke too... I always have to air the shop out for at least a half hour after she leaves.

The last newspaper she framed was one of the "Obama Elected" ones. She wanted it dry-mounted, fine. It wasn't so bad until the heat hit that paper - the WHOLE SHOP stank like cigarette smoke for hours!
 

Bob Doyle

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
"Excuse me, Sir. No food in the shop please. Can you step outside and finish your sandwich and then come back in?".
I have a coffee shop next door. If I told people to not come in with food I'd never see any one :)

I have a bench outside the door, husbands and coffee drinkers sit there while the other shops. I can't believe how many cig butts I have to pick up!
 

blackiris

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
The last newspaper she framed was one of the "Obama Elected" ones. She wanted it dry-mounted, fine. It wasn't so bad until the heat hit that paper - the WHOLE SHOP stank like cigarette smoke for hours!
THE WORST.........is when the crazy cat lady brings in her cross stitch in and I go to press it out.........and it SMELLS LIKE CAT and STALE CIGARETTES!!!!!!! :vomit:
 

Rick Granick

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I have a bench outside the door, husbands and coffee drinkers sit there while the other shops. I can't believe how many cig butts I have to pick up!
Why do smokers feel that the world is their ashtray? Even people who would never think of littering per se will often just flick their cig butts anywhere. This is toxic garbage. They don't just blend into the landscape or disappear. They take many many years to degrade.
When I first bought my building I had a Domino's Pizza for a tenant.
It seemed as though being a smoker was a pre-requisite for working there, and the property was constantly carpeted with butts. It was nauseating. Occasionally I would get fed up and clean up every one in sight, which I would deposit in a neat pile directly in front of their door.
No one ever got the hint. Thank goodness I now have a very civilized tenant over there, and thanks too for no-smoking-in-public-buildings law. Sorry, libertarians...breathing is a good thing.
:kaffeetrinker_2: Rick
 

Bob Doyle

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I remember in college opening the Dominoes box and the pizza just stank of cigarette smoke. Cardboard crust and cigarette sauce could almost kill your buzz :)
 

Framar

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Yesterday when I pulled into my parking spot by my shop I noticed there were white things all over the place by the curb. Turns out some idjit had emptied his ashtray into the street and, no it wasn't butts, it was those white plastic mouthpieces! Talk about a jerk. Yeesh!
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
One of the shops that I work at is right by Arizona State University and the amount of young students who smoke amazes me.
It also amazes me when they dump their ashtrays out and throw there drink cups in the parking lot even though there are 4 giant dumpsters 15 feet away. Then they wonder why places ban smoking. I used to think that most young students were concerned about the environment. I've found out that I was wrong.
It's just like the drivers who want to drive 90 MPH in a 65MPH zone on the highway and then complain about Photo Radar tickets. :shrug:
 

acrompton

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
We have a neighbor two doors down across the street. She tosses her cigarette butts out her car window right in front of our house every time she drives home from somewhere. Brenda has at times, picked them up and deposited them all on her driveway. I guess she is just clueless because it continues to happen.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Or completely apathetic. Or both. :faintthud:

You might could save them up and take her
a dessert plate some night. Chocolate dipped
cigarette butts. She'll never get past the first
one, but what a memorable experience that will
be. :party:

I once saw a Candid Camera type show where
they dipped mackerel in chocolate and set a bowl
of the balls on a store counter. Put up a sign that
read Take One, and sat back to watch. Time after
time, someone would walk by, see the sign and
pop on in their mouth. Could have been dog doo
for all they knew, but in it went. Then out it would
come, spit into their hand as fast as they could.
Only one person stood and resolutely chewed the
whole nasty mouthful.
 

Framar

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I remember reading this in the Reader's Digest many many years ago. Back in the days of the old mom and pop filling stations, you know, where they asked to check the oil and cleaned your windshield while they pumped your gas, a man in a huge Caddy pulled up to this neat-as-a-pin little filling station. And he dumped his ash tray right out on the spotless blacktop.

While the man was round the corner in the rest room, mom stormed out, whisked up the ashes and butts in her dustpan, opened the back door of his Caddy, and dumped them in the middle of his back seat. LOL!
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Whoot! Score one for the momster! :D
 

Jennn

Grumbler
I simply can't understand why people have a problem with cell phone conversations being carried on in stores, restaurants, buses, etc. when it's perfectly ok for two people to speak to each other in these same public spaces. As long as you are not taking calls while the waitress is taking your order or checking out at the grocery store really what's the big deal?
I think it's strange and often mistake it for multiple personalities but I don't mind it so much either. I often offer customers a chance to answer their phones when someone calls them. Perhaps i'm more tolerant because I don't get exposed to it as much as CBD people do. Now that i've said all this i'm sure someone will come in today and annoy me.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
What does CDB stand for, Jen?
 

Jennn

Grumbler
What does CDB stand for, Jen?
Ooops, sorry. It stands for Central Business District. It's city centre, downtown etc.

Coincidently someone was on their phone for an hour at the doctor's waiting room today and their conversation was quite entertaining and a good way to pass the time.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
That comment reminds me of when we
buried my grandma with her cordless phone.
Mom made sure to take the batteries out. :)
 

shayla

WOW Framer
If there was, my grandpa wouldn't have a moment's
peace. He had to listen to her for fifty eight years, and
he's probably enjoying the peace and quiet. :p
 
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