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Mat Samples

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Looking to order some mat samples. Tired of guessing based on web pics(newbie). The few I’ve ordered are not quite as expected. So it’s time.

Considering Crescent Select Alpha-Cellulose.
Yes? No? Is this a good place to start?
What would you all recommend?
What brands/selections are best to stock?
Best place to order samples from?
I’ve been looking at FrameDestination.com as one source.

I realize down the road a bit I will want a couple suppliers to work with, but I’m not there yet.

I appreciate all advice I’ve received so far. Can’t thank you all enough. I could guess, but I figure you all know best.
Steve.
 
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alacrity8

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Crescent Select is a good board. We stock the full line (not including specialty finishes and fabrics)
I might recommend shopping around.
The site you listed does not show the full line of Crescent Selects.
Shipping prices are also a bit high.
I'm pretty sure that United Manufacturing carries the full Select line. Their shipping prices are also quite a bit lower.
There may be other companies with better pricing.

Samples can be a bit hard to come by.
In my experience Samples are free
Contact Crescent directly. They can be stingy on Samples.
Also ask for a Specifier. (That's a book of tiny Samples)

Best of Luck

Brian
 

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Hi all. I got specifier books for most of the Crescent line. How and where can I get corner samples. Something I can hold up next to the artwork to be framed. Same question for Moulding samples. Where do all you framers get these when starting out. I don’t need a ton obviously, but some to get started and provide options.
thanjs.
 

tedh

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Call the matboard manufacturers and get the contact info for their regional distributors, who should be happy to take on a new customer. You may even find them at the manufacturers' websites.
 

Bob Carter

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
don't know if you are close to any distributors but one of your 'best friends' in a start up can easily be your distributor's sales rep. They are often worth their weight in gold

Also, try and centralize your suppliers to fewer, not more. the more you buy the better oportunities for discounts and consolidating purchases makes a big difference in shipping costs
 

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Thanks. Looks like Don Mar is the biggest supplier up here in the North East. Headquarters in RI. I have reached out to them to see if they can help.
 

Ylva

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
don't know if you are close to any distributors but one of your 'best friends' in a start up can easily be your distributor's sales rep. They are often worth their weight in gold

Also, try and centralize your suppliers to fewer, not more. the more you buy the better oportunities for discounts and consolidating purchases makes a big difference in shipping costs
What’s a sales rep? Lol

I haven’t seen one for Donmar in years. Everything is moving towards online dealings.
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
What’s a sales rep? Lol

I haven’t seen one for Donmar in years. Everything is moving towards online dealings.
My DM rep went away a couple of years ago.
 

bobtnailer

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I'll second Bob Carter's comment about the reps being worth their weight in gold.

We only carry three companies' mouldings, and for very specific/intentional reasons:

Larson-Juhl: We buy nearly all of our glass, mat, and foam from LJ, along with a few different mouldings. Their main advantage for us is free delivery every week. Since we're over an hour away from any of our suppliers' warehouses, that's a HUGE advantage - especially for the big/heavy stuff. Of course, they also have some great mouldings. Joe Adamson was my rep until a year or so ago when he moved to the Houston area. I've heard a rumor that I have another rep, but I can't confirm that.

Universal-Arquati: This is the only supplier who has an active rep in my area. She does an amazing job taking care of me, and has even made a special trip (about 80 miles one way) to help me with an on-site consultation with a customer. I'm probably more trouble than I'm worth to her, since we're a tiny shop (well, the framing side of our company is really small - other parts of our store stay hopping!), but every time she comes to visit, she treats me like I'm her biggest and best customer. UA has some really nice stuff (most of my corner displays are theirs), but my rep is really THE reason we buy from them.

Studio: Studio has some really nice mouldings, including some gorgeous woods with great profiles. We don't sell much of their stuff, but we do keep a few of their mouldings on hand and on display. We had a fantastic Studio rep up until a couple of years ago when she moved up north (Illinois, I think).

I have a couple hundred feet of old mouldings from various other companies. If I can use them for a project rather than buying something, I'll do that every time. BUT I don't put them on display...it's just my "special stash" for the odd job here and there.

In my not-humble-enough opinion, having a solid sales rep can be a life-line, especially to someone who is just starting out (we're still new to the framing industry...just since 2015). A good rep will help you see what's selling well in the area, and can give you some great advice on how/what to display, or even teach you a new technique for doing something.

That's just my two cents...and it might be overpriced. :)
 

alacrity8

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Anyone here work with Decor Moulding as a supplier? Based in NY. Thoughts? Thanks.
We do work with Decor moulding, but are doing less business with them every year.
They do not deliver, and their shipping prices seem to be higher than standard.
They ship out the same day as your order, so we get orders quickly.
Their mouldings do not match from batch to batch, so you cannot assume that the frame you cut today will match one you did 3 months ago.
Our Sales Rep is great.

Brian
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
We do work with Decor moulding, but are doing less business with them every year.
They do not deliver, and their shipping prices seem to be higher than standard.
They ship out the same day as your order, so we get orders quickly.
Their mouldings do not match from batch to batch, so you cannot assume that the frame you cut today will match one you did 3 months ago.
Our Sales Rep is great.

Brian
I agree with all of the above.

Their mouldings are in the lower end of the quality spectrum. For higher quality moulding look at the ones mentioned about as well as Fotiou and Roma.

Their pricing on specials is great as long as you order 50' of a moulding plus you can order any moulding at the box price if you order 50'. Your rep may need to set you up for this though.

You haven't mentioned if you have talked to Don Mar yet. They do carry mouldings from several vendors but have a tendency to discontinue mouldings as soon as you try to rely on them for it.
 
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