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Matliner needed

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by Luke D., Feb 25, 2019.

  1. Luke D.

    Luke D. Grumbler

    anyone have a matliner they would like to sell? they are those plastic rulers shaped like an arrow that are used to mark the openings on the back of mats for cutting. long since discontinued...thanks!
     
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  2. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I use a matboard chevron marked out in pencil with little holes to jab a sharp thing though.
    I have several with different patterns. When the holes get too enlarged, just make another.
     
  3. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

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  4. Finest Fabric

    Finest Fabric MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I made a few out of scrap acrylic.... I use them for french lines.
     

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  5. TurnerAssociatesdy

    TurnerAssociatesdy CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Luke, I know the owner, used to work for him. I do not know if Bill has any left. I have a few hidden somewhere, but not willing to part with them.

    Give him a call or email, https://www.archivalartservices.com/ Tell him Dennis Yankow sent you. He has made many neat inventions in framing. Good luck.
     
  6. alacrity8

    alacrity8 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Do you have a picture of one?
     
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    alacrity8 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

  8. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Are they transparent, floppy-thin plastic sheets, like stencils?
     
  9. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    These?

    mat corner stencil resized.jpg
     
  10. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I use the Incra Rule. Works quite well down to 1/64th of an inch.

    INCRA RULE
     
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  11. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Framer Meghan McMillan sells these. Here is a picture of hers, with her contact number right on it.
    :cool: Rick

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  12. Grey Owl

    Grey Owl SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Rick you beat me to it. I love Meghan McMillian's Magnificant Mat Marker! I believe they are around $20 plus shipping. Contact her for details.
     
  13. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    i can see how this would be used to measure for french lines, but the OP mentioned using it on the back of the mat to mark and measure cutting the opening. seems awkward to me, but maybe i'm missing a trick.
     
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  14. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    You're right. I would go with the Incra shown above for that.
    :cool: Rick
     
  15. Luke D.

    Luke D. Grumbler

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  16. Luke D.

    Luke D. Grumbler


    thanks I will try...
     
  17. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I still have one, and use it when I am going to cut a mat manually for a quick one-off. Anyone know what those chevron slots in the end are for?
    :cool: Rick
     
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  18. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    can someone please explain this thing to me?
     
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  19. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    The Matliner is a small T-Square that you run around the perimeter of a mat to mark borders for manual cutting, with a mechanical pencil point in a hole corresponding to the desired border width.

    Meghan's tool is for marking the corner positions for doing inklines or wash panels for French matting, measuring from the corner of a mat opening outward.

    :cool: Rick
     
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  20. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    Back in the stone age when I was cutting mats with a Keeton Kutter and before I added a Pohlmer Mat Gauge to the Keeton Kutter, (I sold it to Wally as a collector's item) I used this kind of marker for mat borders..
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    It was marked in inches and the scribe was replaced with a pencil lead.
     
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  21. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    X-Acto used to make a mat marker gauge that was a plastic version of that with markings to set it accurately. It held a pencil. I still have one of those too, but they've been discontinued for a while.
    :cool: Rick
     
  22. alacrity8

    alacrity8 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Scribes are a pretty common wood working tool.
    I've always hated them. If you do not hold the scribe at the same angle vertically as you mark the mat, the distance from the border to the line will change.
    The Incra ruler and similar devises intrigue me.
    Not enough to buy one though.
     
  23. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Incra tools are useful, and very well made.
    :cool: Rick
     
  24. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Glad you posted a pic, so I can throw out those green plastic things. We were cleaning the basement, and I found stuff the previous owner used 25 years ago. :)
     
  25. TurnerAssociatesdy

    TurnerAssociatesdy CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Yes, the lines on the corner are to make double mats. You cut the top mat first. When you size the bottom mat, put the mat with opening on top of it. Put the triangle in the corner, then you can make a line depending on the width you want to use.

    Sorry, if that was muddled. It is easier to do than explain. I was taught by Bill and Matt, head hinger/matter.
     
  26. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    so you're marking and cutting on the face of the mat?
     
  27. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Marking and cutting from the back of the mat.
    :cool: Rick
     
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  28. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    i think i get it. still seems awkward, but probably isn't to someone who was taught to use it right from the getgo. i learned with a straightedge rule and a logan handheld bevel cutter. nowadays it's all cmc. yay progress!
     
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  29. TurnerAssociatesdy

    TurnerAssociatesdy CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I was taught a traditional mat cutter. I did however like this method better. To me it seemed to be more exact. Yes, cutting from the back.
     
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