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Mounting Plastic Paper To What?

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by shayla, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Our alcohol-ink-on-plastic-paper lady has done more lovely originals. Those I framed a few years ago were all two-pieces, alcohol ink on synthetic paper, which I hinged meeting in the middle, to give the same affect a 'Rorshach' drawing has. I told her at the start that, because nothing was holding the center edges down, they might ripple up over time, which has happened a bit. She still likes them, but not an ideal treatment. After that batch, I told her that, for works on single sheets of plastic paper, some people mount it to a substrate prior to painting, so they don't have to hinge later. Couldn't figure out how to mount her already-painted two-pieces, though.

    Now, she's made more of the two-piece mirror-image paintings, and is interested in mounting, rather than hinging, so there's no risk of the centers rippling up. She suggested using a tape or gel of some kind, and I told her any tape need to be both temperature-tolerant and not damage her art. Because it's plastic sheeting, it wouldn't react like paper to heat changes, but I know that plastic still expands and contracts some. Also, whatever we attach it to might do it. Using a gel (acrylic maybe?) is imaginable for the first half, because any that squishes out at the center could be wiped away, but for the second half, we wouldn't want excess squishing onto the other side of the piece. If she did find a tape that worked, because it's not paper, I'm wondering if she could just run a strip (or two) down the middle and on the outsides, but if the current centers have rippled up a bit over time, it seems there might be some weirdness between the part of the sheets that has tape underneath and those that don't. Lastly, I used a magnifying glass to position her first ones for hinging, and I've told her that something that grabs right away and can't be re-positioned wouldn't be good if we had to adjust. Each half is 5 1/2 x 14", vertically oriented, so the whole result will be 11 wide by 14 high.

    Thanks for reading all this.
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    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    sounds tricky. the acrylic gel might work. mount the first half then wipe away any squeeze out. mask off the mounted half with a removeable tape (scotch 811? FrogTape?) and repeat? maybe? good luck!
  3. CB Art & Framing

    CB Art & Framing SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Ask her to provide some blank sheets and experiment.
    I'm thinking clear mounting tissue or clear school glue?
    Or maybe some acrylic clips?
  4. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Is there a clear, non-damaging mounting tissue that works without heat? Haven't heard of one, but that would be great.
  5. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I would avoid anything viscous like the gel for this. It would probably show any imperfections, and if any got on the surface it could make a royal mess.
    I would be more inclined to use a self-adhesive film made by Gudy or something similar that is flat, smooth, and doesn't involve moisture. Disclaimer: I have no experience mounting that material, but am just brainstorming obvious factors to avoid. You might search the PFM site. I think Chris Paschke has written about similar material mounting.
    :cool: Rick
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  6. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Just read her article in PFM about a bunch of adhesives. She's a great help to so many framers.
  7. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    Is that Yupo paper?
  8. bruce papier

    bruce papier MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Maybe the adhesive they use to face mount photographs to acrylic? If you don't have access to it and the equipment to apply it, maybe someone in your area does.
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  9. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    No. She first used Yupo, then used photo paper, and now it's some kind of synthetic plastic. Which, I suppose, is a redundant thing to say. Haven't seen any free range plastic of late, but one never knows.
  10. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

  11. JFeig

    JFeig SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I would ask for the name of the product and manufacturer and contact them on how to proceed.
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