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Music in your business

Discussion in 'The Voting Booth' started by John Ranes II CPF GCF, Apr 11, 2017.

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What is your primary source of music that you play in the retail section of your business?

This poll will close on Aug 11, 2017 at 5:17 PM.
  1. No Music... just nice and quiet

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. AM or FM Radio

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  3. CD's of Choice

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Apple Music

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Amazon Prime Music

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  6. Pandora

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  7. Spotify

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  8. SiriusXM

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. Plug.dj

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Slacker Radio

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    OK... curious as to how many of you use a paid or unpaid music service? We recently stopped playing CD's and have been playing Pandora which works pretty well.

    I'm also curious to which stations you have selected. Please keep in mind that I am not talking about "backroom Rock & Roll to keep employees Happy music" - I am asking which soft retail storefront stations do you play? We currently have a Shuffle of the following Pandora Stations...
    • Pink Martini
    • Norah Jones
    • Jazz Instrumentals
    • Diana Krall
    • Beegie Adair
    • Harry Connick, Jr

    I would be curious if those who do use Pandora would make any other recommendations for us to consider?
     
  2. Aaron Randall

    Aaron Randall CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    I use iTunes Music. I like it in that I can play specific albums and songs, but also has a bunch of generic radio stations. As for what I play, probably much different than most here. I play a lot of blues, classic soul, and Americana, which is alt-country/rock, where you'll get anything from Merle Haggard to Sturgil Simpson to The Lumineers. My shop is 1200 sq feet and my shop space is open to my Gallery/Design area, so I play what I like and turn it down when a customer walks in, via my work iPhone side volume keys that I keep in my back pocket, as it's wirelessly connected to my Naim audio compact Mu-So Qb. The whole unit is about 10 inches cubed, and provides audiophile quality sound that really fills up the whole space.
     
  3. Terry Hart cpf

    Terry Hart cpf SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I've been curious about these new streaming services, are they ASCAP approved for use in retail situations or are you still required to pay a fee
    ?

    *And do you pay a licensing fee to play music?
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2017
  4. auntiesarahjayne

    auntiesarahjayne MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I pay the monthly fee for Spotify so I don't have to hear the ads and that is where most my ambient music is from. I listen to jazz, bluegrass, folk, classical.
    I will also listen to NPR classical when I need a break and want to hear local news in between.
    Sometimes I turn it all off.
     
  5. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    I just a Sirius trial with my new car and decided to give it a go in the shop as well. Sounds OK in the car. For the shop I bought one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00395ZQMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and have it connected via Ethernet on my shop network. The quality isn't very good. Sounds like they are streaming at 128 Kbps but I haven't found anything yet that lists their streaming quality. I'm waiting for someone to come over to the shop to tell me how it really sounds but to my semi-deaf ears, it sounds not very good. The internet radio I got can also stream over 16,000 internet radio stations including Pandora, iheartradio, NPR on-demand, BBC, ESPN, Live 365, Sirius, over 30,000 Podcast but so far I have just tried it on Sirius.
     
  6. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Interesting Larry,

    Thanks for sharing.

    I also have bounced in and out with SiriusXM on my car, often taking advantage of their "Return to Us" offers that are heavily discounted.

    For the shop, I simply took a retired PC Workstation and monitor and hooked it up to our Amplifier and have been opening up the Internet to log into Pandora. However, I have to say that this looks interesting... (found this on the same Amazon page where you shared your Internet Radio)



    [​IMG]

    My question to you is does the device above or the device that you use, have the capability to mix stations, thumbs up & down songs as I see no monitor on what you recommended? Obviously this is new territory for me. :)


    John
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2017
  7. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Do you have to pay PRS and ppl in America?
     
  8. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    I looked at that one also. I wanted one with Ethernet. If you add the optional USB Ethernet adapter to this one, the cost is the same as mine. I stacked mine on top of my receiver and have a center channel speaker on top of that so that is another reason. Didn't have room for this one and the center channel speaker.

    OTOH, yours has a nicer display and both have audio out to connect to your present receiver.
     
  9. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    What be PRS and ppl?
     
  10. John Ranes II CPF GCF

    John Ranes II CPF GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Actually NOT mine...just saw this when I clicked on your link. :)

    I used a RETIRED PC Workstation which of course has an Ethernet connection. However, we hooked it up using the WI-FI signal within the shop and after a week seems to work well. What I like about the set-up is that we have a full sized monitor to view the channels, for Editing and Selection. BTW, as you asked about sound quality....this feeds into our AMP via RCA connections and pumps into 4 ceiling speakers in the retail area and 2 ceiling speakers in the back room - quality seems no different than the CD's playing.

    John
     
  11. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I listened to commercial FM radio for years until my favourite station started playing rubbish. My solution, which I still use in my car and caravan,was to copy my favourite CDs onto a USB stick and play this on shuffle. With a couple of dozen assorted albums it provided hours of no-cost entertainment.

    Of course, this solution works best for a one-man operation and it could be interesting sharing a workplace with people with varying tastes in music.
     
  12. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    A number of years ago, I ripped the 400 or CDs or so that I owned. The best of that I moved to an ancient Zune that refuses to die. That has been my shop music for many years but after so many years of listening to the same old, same old, I yearned for something else.

    Its still there for when I get tired of Sirius.
     
  13. i-FRAMER

    i-FRAMER MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    We have Sonos at the shop at listen to Buddha Radio, and Koffee a couple others when we get tired of those
     
  14. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Music licensing for business, a quick Google and it looks like this one is your equivalent
    https://www.ascap.com

    Ours costs around £500 per year to have the privilege of listening to music in our work place
     
  15. Terry Hart cpf

    Terry Hart cpf SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    It's been years now but someone from ASCAP has come around in the past threatening a law suit for playing music in store. You can get away with it if it's "just for the staff" but if it's broadcast through out the store or even too loud where customers can hear it, they can slap you supposedly.
     
  16. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    We in the UK even have to pay if we use on hold music on our telephone systems, quite rediculous.
     
  17. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Those licensing laws are based on the principle that you buy music for personal enjoyment and that does not give you the right to stage "public performances" of it or use it commercially.

    Just how it is supposed to be enforced or who decides what is a legitimate use of recorded music is beyond me. My music was only played in the workshop but is was probably at least audible in the front. Certainly no officials ever appeared waving pieces of paper demanding money.
     
  18. Scout

    Scout Grumbler

    I prefer Spotify right now.
     
  19. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I have had numerous visit's, the odd thing is music puts me off what I am doing, silence is my music, each time they appear or call, there's no music but they insist on asking stupid questions, you have computers, they could play music you pay! They don't have speakers... F off.
    They once came in and an employee was listening to something on her phone whilst on her break in the back, you need to pay! My response, please go away, (F off).
     
  20. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    So who is up for starting a picture licencing business in the same style as they do for music, if you have pictures in the work place it enhances the working environment therefore you have to pay!
    Of course some of the profits will have to go to the artists and photographers but i think this could be a winner!
     
  21. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Maybe not such a joke. Many of the home improvement/decorating TV shows we see here are produced in Canada. All of the wall art and even the badges on cars are fuzzied out. Something is going on up there.
     

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