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Discussion in 'Software, Computers, CMC's Techie Stuff' started by CB Art & Framing, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. CB Art & Framing

    CB Art & Framing SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    My 15 year old Dell finally died. Was running XP Pro which I loved. Need a new computer now for home and some work stuff (web, books, basic Photoshop etc.)
    Any recommendations appreciated.
    I'm not crazy about the Windows 10 "App" feel.
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  2. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    The best desktops are, in my opinion, made of American Black Walnut.

    Joking aside, I don't get people's objection to the Win8/10's "App Feel". I use a Windows based computer a good part of the day, probably more than 50% of my time is directly in front of the screen. If 0.1% of that time is interfacing with an "app" I'd be very surprised. If you sat next to me and watched what I did, the only inclination you'd have that I'm using Win10 instead of 95 is that when I want to open something that's not pinned to my taskbar I press the Windows key and a little set of tiles pop up while I type 1-5 letters before what I want is there. Then we're back to business as usual.

    Have you actually sat down and really used a Win10 machine?

    If in the end you simply don't like Win10, you can still (I think) get Win7, or the other two "big name" choices would a Mac or some flavor of Linux. Red Hat is one I remember from a couple decades ago that I believe is still alive.

    Or you could just go all out and design an OS that works the way you want it. Who knows, you may just be the next great thing. AND retire from framing at an early age.
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  3. i-FRAMER

    i-FRAMER MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Or you could get Mac.
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  4. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    The "App feel" is an option on Windows 10. The default desktop installation is an ordinary desktop that you are used to. Windows 10 is a far better operating system than any previous iteration.

    As far as desktops go, I like the all-in-ones with wireless keyboard and mouse - absolute minimum wire clutter and minimal use of space. I'm typing this from a 24" 4k HP.
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  5. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    We have a Dell 27" all-in-one at home and I almost never use it. But it was a joy to set up. There is literally ONE wire, for power. Three total pieces of hardware - screen/CPU, keyboard, mouse.

    At work you are going to pry my cold, dead hands off my Apple Cinema 27" monitor. I will deal with the extra couple wires to connect it to my PC. Absolutely brilliant.
  6. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Find out who made the cinematic screen, apple didn't, Samsung made some, you can usually get the exact same innards with a different bezel for a few hundred dollars less, if like me you do not care what logo is on it it is a winner :)
  7. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Maybe. I don't know. I've never seen a screen as nice as this one.

    Just because some generic factory made it doesn't necessarily mean that it's not made to unique standards.

    I certainly don't care about the label and would gladly pay hundreds less for the equivalent. Of course, if it dies, I'll be left trying to find a replacement since Apple doesn't "make" them any more.
  8. Mike Labbe

    Mike Labbe Member, Former moderator team volunteer

    The 27" Apple A1316 $999 was sold in July 2010 and they only bought one batch, which was exhausted in less than a year. I believe the same monitor was sold by manufacturer LG, at the time, for $390. Both are long since discontinued. Monitors are very inexpensive these days.

    2560x1440 TFT technology

    Dells Ultrasharp line are made by Samsung, but I believe Apple was sourcing theirs from LG.
  9. prospero

    prospero SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I am using Win 7 Pro and I didn't really want that when I got this PC in 2010. But I got used
    to it. I have a Win 10 all-in-one and I didn't really like that. But I got used to it.

    I clung onto 98SE for a long while before going XP. I got used to that as well. I think it's the
    look of a new OS that is a bit of a culture shock but twiddle about with themes a bit and you
    get used to it. :rolleyes:

    The only thing I had a niggle about with post XP systems is that you can't rearrange files in a
    folder. They are alphabetical and that's it. :( Make new folder and click off and it vanishes to it's
    appointed place. Sometimes you want things to stay put.
  10. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    It may have been the Dell I was thinking about, I have three ultra sharps, very nice range of monitors.
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  11. Mike Labbe

    Mike Labbe Member, Former moderator team volunteer

    I have had several Dell Ultrasharps, Samsung 25 and 27 inchers, and am currently using a few Viewsonics at the shop. Theyre nice and bright, LED, and affordable. Viewsonic VS16387 27" is what I'm looking at now. It was $149 shipped, when I got it.

    For PC deals, you can check techbargains.com

    I picked up a pair of Dell XPS 8910 desktops for the new shop about 4 1/2 months ago, and they have been fantastic.
    We opted for the stainless steel case, Win10 Pro 64 bit, I7-6400 Intel processor, 16gb RAM, 1tb 7200 drive, wireless mouse and kb, a/v, dvd burner, chip reader, wireless AC card, about a dozen USB ports, nVidia GTX 750Ti video card. A bit overkill for POS, but will last a lot of years.

    Found the deal on techbargains, and they had them for $450 off each, free 2 day shipping, and I stacked it together with 10% cash back from ebates.com and 10% cash back from Discover card. $2399 - $900 (sale) -$150 (ebates rebate) -$150 (Discover cash back) = $1199 w/free shipping. (thats for 2 units, so $600 each or effectively 50% off) I did the same thing earlier this month to get two new Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 tablets for 50% off.

    Dell also gives back a couple percent more, if you join their free DELL REWARDS program. They send gift cards that expire in 90 days.

    Happy shopping!

    PS: Clicking the above link, I see they have todays Editors Choice deal of a Dell 8910. It's a more basic model in a black case with 8gb RAM (plenty for POS), I5 chip, 1TB, wired mouse and kb, win10 pro, etc for $479 before additional discount programs mentioned above. Ends in 6 hrs. Good luck!
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2017
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  12. CB Art & Framing

    CB Art & Framing SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Thanks Mike.
    Have ordered the Dell 8910.
    Very exited.
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  13. David Waldmann

    David Waldmann SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I bought mine in August 2012. I was sure it wasn't more than 2-3 years ago, but time flies. Took me forever to find any "proof" of when it was. Couldn't find any purchase records in the usual places, but then the good old Grumble helped out. Take that, FaceBook!

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  14. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I used to build my own, then one day I found I simply could not be bothered, the last one was our cloud server, at one time I would have been able to say exactly what went in and why, now I can say some stuff went in cos it works well :)
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