I've started to type this a number of times but hit delete instead of submit. we'll see if this one makes it. I think the original topic of the thread could be helpful, but I have to address a number of things I believe are misconceptions concerning PPFA and how it operates. I wish everyone understood that there is no real hierarchy or chain of command. The PPFA is an organization governed by a group of volunteers participating in a series of committees. There are a number of policies in place designed to avoid favoritism or influence. For example, no member of the board may participate in competitions. No member of the board may accept payment from a PPFA organization. (We can teach, just not accept the honorarium that Rob uses for his yacht payment. Which OBTW wouldn't pay the monthly mooring fee.) When anything is to be decided or changed, from competition guidelines to award recipients, a committee reviews, and reviews and hashes out details until they are confident; then, that is forwarded to the board where it happens again. Many individuals contribute to the conversations and often try to play "devil's advocate" to make sure things are well vetted. When something like an annual award is given we want to make sure that the response is "yeah, I get that that person deserves that award." Anyone receiving an award should expect that the "negative" has been discussed and should feel honored that their receipt of the award was well vetted and they were determined to be worthy. As for education, I have nothing to do with, nor know anything about the WCAF offering, but with PPFA the one thing that seems missing from your discussion is resource allocation. PPFA by contract, time, and space has a limited number of "slots" in which to offer classes. I have not been on the education committee, but can envision how the process goes ... Lay out the slot schedule. Put Hugh Phibbs classes in because it's the only opportunity for framers to hear him. Fill with classes that aren't available anywhere else and can help certification/business survival. Eventually you get down to a few slots left and you have to decide what to fill them with. Now, let me talk a bit about Pat teaching a class. I like Pat. I brought pat to the New England chapter because she has valuable information that many of the members, that couldn't make it to national, could use. But, think about it. Nothing to do with the "value" of her class, but if you're down to one slot available, they are limited remember, and your choice is a subject not available anywhere else, or a subject that members can get on the show floor, what do you choose? It's a practical problem. How can the limited classroom space and time be maximized for members benefit. Frankly, IMO, all of the other arguments aside, Pat is too available in other venues and time to use a class slot for her. P.S. most of the committee chairs last year were women.