One of my first...

Stephen Enggass

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Kind of cool. First, although unpaid, job. Putting new frame on my friends signed Jamie Wyeth. ‘The Night’. I did not do mat...

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Stephen Enggass

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Lol. This guy did a lot of work on my Boston Whaler - all new electrical and would not take any pay. I owe him. He is going to send business my way however.
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
Nice. Hopefully he didn't use a sharpie.
 

Larry Peterson

PFG, Picture Framing God
Sharpies will fade. Do a search on "Sharpies" here and you will find a wealth of info on not using them.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Back in the day, my friend's sister's friend went out with Jamie and kept his coat. That's my 'Kevin Bacon-ish' connection. lol... :)

To follow up on the Sharpie comment, if you ever need a truly permanent pen, Micron Pigma pens are good. As for this pencil, it's a good idea to make the frame just 1/16" larger than the mat and add a hidden plastic spacer. That will hold the pencil away from the glass.
 

tedh

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
So let's begin a discussion of the frame.

I'm leaning to gold, but subdued. Fine details, and if you can find one with a wash to match the mat, all the better. Not too ornate.

What do you think?
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I'm leaning to gold, but subdued. Fine details, and if you can find one with a wash to match the mat, all the better. Not too ornate.
What do you think?
Agree, antique gold frame 1-3/4" to 2" wide would be nice but I think a 1-3/4" natural walnut would look much better. I do really like the mat but wish that it had a weighted bottom - maybe a faux weighted bottom with a 4 ply top mat of the 8 ply mat of the same color having a 1/2" reveal. It would look sharp
 

prospero

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Very nice. 😁

I do however have a down on signatures/remarques on mats.

The Art is the Art and the Mat is the Mat. 🙄

Extending the art to the mat makes the mat part of the art. The mat is essentially to protect the art
and is sacrificial. Allows safe handling without touching the art.
So ideally you should have another mat on top of the whole lot. If the mat gets damaged you can
replace it an no harm done, but if it's an integral part you are stuck.

Jus' Saying. 😕
 

Stephen Enggass

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I do really like the mat but wish that it had a weighted bottom - maybe a faux weighted bottom with a 4 ply top mat of the 8 ply mat of the same color having a 1/2" reveal. It would look sharp
I was thinking the same thing - if I do add a mat, I can only come in about 1/2" from edge to avoid cutting off signature on right hand side.
 

Ylva

Forum Support Team
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I don’t think the added mat would make it look great, plus finding the exact color might be tricky

I don’t like signed mats either.
Usually I would suggest to the customer to take the mat off, cut out the signature and create an envelope on the dustcover to keep it safe and with the art.
Choice is theirs of course but I always offer it as an option
 

Pat Murphey

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Don't knock the signature on the mat. It is a dedication and important in its own right. Munn Frameworks L16112P 1000M (1 1/2" Louis XVI Antique Gold) would be perfect.

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Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I was thinking the same thing - if I do add a mat, I can only come in about 1/2" from edge to avoid cutting off signature on right hand side.
I understand, I didn't really think of the signatures. I believe the signatures looks good on the mat, I sure wouldn't cover them. That antique gold frame that Pat Murphey suggest would look great but I still believe the dark walnut frame would fit the picture better.
 

shayla

WOW Framer
Walnut or aged platinum would look good. (Or natural walnut with an antiqued leaf lip edge). Simple is good on this, and since it's unpaid, that's just as well for you. I agree about the signature looking tacky, but I'm pretty sure that both Mr. Wyeth and your friend would disagree. lol... And adding an outer mat would only emphasize the writing and further minimize the image, so best to keep it as is.
 

Stephen Enggass

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Story is... that it was a framed print. Not an original. My friend manages the boatyard here in Maine that the Wyeth's use. He asked Mr. Wyeth if he would sign it for a friend - so they proceeded to open the frame from behind and remove the print/mat and sign it. That's why it s signed on the mat.
Input here has been great - still not sure what direction I'll take. I will post image when complete.
 
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