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Discussion in 'Art Matters & News' started by GreenTea, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. GreenTea

    GreenTea CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    This is a situation I've had to deal with so many times, and I always wish I had a Ph.D. in art appraisal.
    A customer has a PETER MAX original signed SERIGRAPH "Peach Lady" lithograph that is not in very good condition. She wants my opinion on whether or not to have me try to "clean it up" and frame it. A good condition version of this lithograph costs anywhere from $3,000.00 to $$10,000.00. This particular one however is water damaged, creased from having been rolled up and crushed, and the worst part - the color is faded due to (probably) water damage.

    What do you guys do when your in this situation? Is there a conservator out there in Grumbleland that might be interested in working on this piece?

    My usual modus operandi is to do my best and frame whatever. I will only do that if the owner releases me of liability, and of course is fully aware that I am not a conservator. I've had good results with the work I've done. This particular piece however might be valuable, and therefore something that might best be served by an actual conservator.

    Thanks for your help!
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  2. 05

    05 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

  3. RParrish

    RParrish PFG, Picture Framing God

    Don't make the customer's problem yours, by messing it up further, liability waiver or not.
  4. wpfay

    wpfay Angry Badger

    Serigraph or Lithograph? Makes a difference in both value and restoration processes.
    The cost of a binding waiver from a reputable attorney will exceed the cost of framing.
  5. GreenTea

    GreenTea CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I think it's a lithograph. And I agree with the general consensus - I think I'll pass on this one!

    Thanks for the input and suggestions!

  6. mbboston

    mbboston CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    We recently restored and framed Peter Max poster 78" x 56", it was in a rough shape.

  7. Randyman

    Randyman Grumbler in Training

    This print on eBay

    I did a search for this item on Google. I found a framed version that supposedly sold on eBay in September for $2,995.00 and another that sold last week for $560 --both framed and from the same seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/280993680972 Interesting that both prints show the same number --290/300. Not only wouldn't I mess with it I'd advise the client to do some digging to find out what the real world value of this image is --especially since one in "excellent condition" (as described by the eBay seller) recently fetched $560 framed!

    UTA KIRCHLECHNER CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Great that you are in the Boston, Mass area. I will refer my customers to you. :smiley:
  9. Dave

    Dave SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Is she all about the value of the print or just wanting to frame it for her own enjoyment? If about value, send her to a conservator and have her weigh the cost of conservation versus the resale value. Better yet, develop a relationship with a conservation studio that allows you to make a small margin to garner the framing.

    If for her own enjoyment, frame the sucker to standards that will not further deteriorate the print and move on.
  10. j Paul

    j Paul PFG, Picture Framing God

    If these came from Park West Gallery that would explain the high appraised value as well as the low real life value. PWG appraises there own items for sale and then the rubes / ummmm, I mean customers quote that appraisal when hoping to sell and never achieve it.
  11. The Art Appraiser

    The Art Appraiser Grumbler

    From the sounds of it's condition, I would say that the restoration would not be cost effective.
  12. wpfay

    wpfay Angry Badger

    Please check dates on threads before replying. This thread is almost 3 years old.
  13. cvm

    cvm PFG, Picture Framing God

    ...and it was on its way back into oblivion and then you (and now me) brought it back up to the top.
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