SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Nic,blackiris said:...Do you have to be a CPF or MCPF to be a part of the PPFA?
Is it the PPFA's view that someone that hasn't gotten those creditials... less of a framer?
Your comment about GETTING MORE CUSTOMERS..... proves it right there. You know exactly what I'm talking about now. You would rather a customer go to another framer...
...and to those that desire to see the flaws in this effort to promote our industry and the Find-A-Picture-Framer PPFA Page, I invite you to examine that page once again and recognize that it is nothing more than your fellow retail members attempting to help the Association by providing MORE information than the previous Advanced PPFA Search was providing.
Look at it and indeed you will see a hyperlinked image window explaining the CPF and MCPF programs to the potential consumer visiting this page. This is only one of four window image links - Likewise one inspires potential consumers with faming examples. A third Displays additional framing ideas, while the fourth helps customers understand about what the PPFA as a trade association is all about.
I totally would agree with you if the Certification promotion was out of proportion to the other information being shared, but I honestly do not see that in this case.
I also agree with you in that any credentials should be displayed following a persons name and that this should follow the business name. The information should be presented to the consumer in the search results by ZIP code numerical order (as it is now) or by Geographical distance (as it hopefully will be improved) with no regards to certificed member getting top billing (which it does not).
Should any reference to the certifcation program be eliminated on this page and in the search results? Absolutely NOT. The goal of this page is to assist potential consummers in finding out where to find the best framers conveient to there locale. (Please notice that framers are not listed by who has the best prices! Hence I need to share a story with you....)
Does this mean that there are not other good framers in town that are perhaps not certified?...Sure there are!John Ranes II said:Long before the Internet, this forum, the PPFA Framer's Corner and online search directories, we would sometimes get a good customer who would move away from our community. They would sometimes ask, I'm moving to Small Town, West Coast City, Blah Blah and I want to find a good framer (like you) to take care of us in this new community. Can you recommend someone? How do I find a good reliable framer?...
I would answer this by advising that when they find a framer in their new town, that they look for three things...
- When you walk into the shop, are the floors clean? are the window sills clean? Are the counters clean and organized? KEY=A framer who takes care of those little details will probably take good care of your artwork.
- Do they belong to the PPFA (Look at the door for a sticker)? KEY=If they care enough to join this typically means that they care about the overall direction that the industry is going and they want their business to be part of that.
- Is the owner or key framer a CPF? KEY=This typically indicates that they care about their own knowledge and keeping abreast within the industry.
Are there some excellent framers that don't belong to PPFA? Indeed they exist.
What it does mean is that if all three conditions are met, the odds are better than not that I have placed that old customer of mine into good hands.
So bottom line - Framers with credentials should be listed. All members should be listed with equal representation.
Mark,Artrageous said:...Although joining the PPFA seems like entrance into this group, without continuing education and credential certification you are not much better to them then those who don't join.
Elitists are what they are...
No... Framers with Passion and dedication is how I might describe some of these folks.