Absolute nonsense!! Seriously, no one who actually does framing for a living would charge an insane price like that....AND say it would only cost $15.00, including the cost of overhead while doing the work as well as your own pay with the included government deductions as well.I charge $200 and make $185 profit on it. Easy to make your own strainer bar out of high quality wood and do the work in an hour.
*Does not include canvas. That's at least $150 retail maybe close to $200 for preprimed cotton (it's a little hard to even find canvas over the 80" or so height you'd need for this). That would put me well over the $700.I'm a bit less according to my pricing but I might regret it. I'm about equal parts stretcher & stretching at that size.
Really?.....Wow!Artists get ripped off by traditional shops, so I cater to them. Professional picture framing is ultimately a very simple service.
Are your initial stretches all done with metal pushpins, then staples for the final go?O.K., current real world data- I just stretched a 40 x 96 canvas. It took me 45 minutes to make the bars and install the braces. It took me another 45 minutes to stretch the painting. I may or may not have to stretch it again tomorrow. I'll admit at no time did flame shoot from my fingertips, but I don't think I'm abnormally slow.
What a kind man.Please, just go away.
Thanks, I'm getting 35 feet of footage including braces and cuttoff for the miters at .66 is $23.10. Let's add $1.90 for glue and staples. $25.Nice work Miles, but even at .66 a foot for lumber you still spending $30-$35 on enough stock to make the bars and braces. I'm sure that's where people think your pricing is a little off.
It's $25 for materials, so $80 to $90 sounds insane. Like I said above shopping for wood at Home Depot is a rip off and if you took 2 hours to stretch a canvas at a traditional shop, I'm sure your boss would be wondering what you were doing with your time. Most strainer or stretcher bars are made from kiln dried white pine any way and that's $0.20 a foot. That's what a local high volume canvas printing service and I have negotiated for materials for larger orders of Giclee printing that don't need higher quality poplar, that's where I got my original $15 estimate.
[*]Popular (1 in. x 2 in. x 8 ft. S4S Poplar Board) at Home Depot is about $10. You will need about 8-9 lengths of this for the 6' x 9' strainer including cross braces. That alone is about $80-$90. If you are only paying $15 for your popular, I know a few people who would like to know the source of your way under market price source.
[*]The time to buy the wood, set up the shop for the job and then cut and assemble the strainer, then clean up the mess is at least 2 hours. How long would it take you to stretch a canvas this size?
[*]The time to [B]properly stretch[/B] a canvas will be at least 2 hours.
As a full time framer for 49 years and shop manager, I never realized how "very simple" the service was for "Professional picture framing" and how "traditional shops rip off artists"...
Just checked out your website, etc... Do you still offer just those three lines, in 7 mouldings? If you're framing mostly for artists/galleries, with a limited offering, it sounds like you've found a workable niche for yourself. Our business model is different than that, but we have a framing friend who does something similar. There's a song thread over in Warped if you'd ever like to post one of yours......