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Price of aluminum moulding

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by DVieau2, Mar 4, 2018.

  1. DVieau2

    DVieau2 PFG, Picture Framing God

    Should we expect the price of aluminum moulding to increase in the future.

    No intention to be political here. I'm happy to buy American produced.

    How does Neilsen and Designer source their materials?
     
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  2. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    You, as well as Canada, are screwed. Trump is so wrong on this one, we're all going to suffer.
     
  3. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    The USA has been fighting, and losing, against us on softwood lumber, for decades. When you think you've won, and tariffs are imposed against us, the cost of a new home in America increases by $1,500.

    America first is not always the answer.
     
  4. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Trump is bargaining. He has already indicated that tariffs would go away if NAFTA is fixed.
     
  5. wpfay

    wpfay Angry Badger

    The price of aluminum moulding is already up when compared to wood. That and the profile selection has plummeted for aluminum.
    I just priced out a small production job (45 pieces) in basic OEM Nielsen vs. box price from 4 major suppliers for a 3/4" face x 1 1/8" deep stem at 30" X 20" (Studio 27701 for reference) and the wood was less expensive once you factored in the hardware, and, at least in my situation, more labor intensive.

    I'm only showing about 30 metal samples now, and don't sell it as the poster frame go-to. I have several choices in wood that are better values than OEM 11 silver.
     
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  6. Harold Milby

    Harold Milby Grumbler in Training

    You have asked a great question. I can answer on behalf of Designer Moulding. Designer is owned by Cardinal Aluminum, who is an aluminum extrusion company. All of our metal framing is extruded, powder coated and anodized is done in our factories. Due to there being few smelters in the US and Canada that produce aluminum billets or in our case logs, we order aluminum from Dubai and Qatar. The president's aluminum tariffs have increased our raw materials costs by 10%. The cost of paint and chemicals used for anodizing has also risen this year. The aluminum extrusion industry as a whole has experienced a tremendous growth in business over the last couple of years and costs for all types of material associated with producing extruded products has increased. The cost of aluminum is based upon prices on the London Metal Exchange and fluctuates daily. I hope this help answer you concerns.
     
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  7. Peter Odems

    Peter Odems SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Just a first sign for what happens. More signs will follow and factories will have to close in Europe.
     
  8. Bob Carter

    Bob Carter SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    thanks for insight. Do you know why Dubai and Qatar are go-to manufacturers? And, why are there few smelters in North America? Thanks and purely non-political curiousity
     
  9. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Harold Milby - thank you for jumping in here.

    Now may I ask you a question please?

    Why did Designer discontinue the color called Heather? It was the best color ever! That hint of lavender to the soft blue was just perfect for so many framing jobs - and nowadays when digital prints that try to be black and white end up with a lavender cast it would be even more perfect.

    Just asking . . .

    (I still have a couple of rails of this precious color - all for myself!)

    And yes I do realize this was discontinued very long ago. :(
     
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