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Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by DVieau2, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. DVieau2

    DVieau2 PFG, Picture Framing God

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  2. CB Art & Framing

    CB Art & Framing SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

  3. DVieau2

    DVieau2 PFG, Picture Framing God

    It's a big big deal in the imaging business.

    Life touch has a decades long foot in the door to most households and Educational Institutions
    in America via their School Photography business.
    Shutterfly has done pretty well at adapting new digital technology to photo takers.

    Both started out as a major player the day they offer limited framing services.

    I can see a Framebridge style approach and all they have to do is capture their existing Yuge customer base. Then....maybe come after yours and Framebridges.

    Suppliers in framing and printing industries will be scrambling.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/shutte...lifetouch-for-825-million-1517353031?mod=e2tw
     
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  4. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    on-line options such as framebridge and these others may fill a certain niche, but they can never replace true quality custom framing. They may be a threat to the big box stores that cater to people who base their buying decisions on price or convenience, but those of us who offer quality and personal service and all the other things that a website can't offer have nothing to fear.
     
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  5. Gilder

    Gilder MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I had a frame last week for glass replacement, customers scratched plexyglas and wanted a glass.
    That was an original charcoal and a frame made by Framebridge, drawing was dry mounted, made
    like a platform that is mounted on matboard and plexyglas with 1/4" spacers making plexyglas laying directly on artwork.

    I replaced the glass and added 1/2 spacers. That's all I could do.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2018
  6. drandall

    drandall CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    While that is true in some respects a 20 or 25 year old will not know that and has the 4 sticks of wood mentality, the how hard can this be of the vast majority of the population and will go there first. Sure they will buy a black frame white mat or gallery wrap. They will buy on price alone too and they will still not be in your shop, they will not know you exist.
     
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  7. KevinAnnala01

    KevinAnnala01 True Grumbler

    False. Human kind has accomplished far more complex and advanced tasks. Online visualization tools and photorealistic 3D like previews are available...expensive as ****, but available. I can think of 4 I'm considering right now. The future will simply build on that, and make it more accessible and simple to achieve more and more complex framing jobs.
     
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  8. IFGL

    IFGL SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    True. :)
    We have framed plenty of items some with a degree of complication without ever seeing the customer, although ours isn't an on line tool (we are looking into this though), we have conversed through email and if needed phone calls, we do visualise the project for both in store customers and those acquired through the magic of the internet or through word of mouth which in today's small world is reaching further and further, we have had word of mouth sales reaching all over the UK from Scotland to Cornwall and in recent years even across into Europe.
     
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  9. Gilder

    Gilder MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I absolutely agree, history of framing goes back 500 years (god bless Italians) and thinking that some
    on-line tool will replace it in a hurry just a fantasy.
     
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  10. MATTHEW HALE

    MATTHEW HALE CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I'll see your "False" and raise you another. ;)

    While I welcome these technological advances (I use my Wizard 9000 every day) for the time and labor savings they bring, I don't fear them. Online communication and design is a very useful tool, and I agree that the future will build on these advances and make more and more interesting and complex and (maybe) better frame designs possible. I do not agree that these tools and the people who use them (Framebridge, et al) are a threat to my livelihood. I stand by my statement that there is no substitute for quality custom framing.
     
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  11. framerfrog

    framerfrog Grumbler

    I don't think anyone (on this site) would dispute that there is no substitute for quality custom framing. However, these services (like the big box stores) will definitely lessen the pool of customers looking for that quality custom framing. I agree there is no need to fear them (big box stores actually push a lot of business to my store), but to deny that they will remove a portion of customers that would otherwise walk into a 'quality custom framing' store is naive.
     
  12. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    As a parallel, my kids, who would rarely take a taxi because of cost, almost live in Uber cars. The taxi industry touts safety, local knowledge and tight regulations. My kids don’t care. They want cheap.
     
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  13. Gilder

    Gilder MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Taxy usually filthy. I would take uber myself.
     
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  14. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    If the taxi companies had an Uber like app that allows you to order a taxi and gives you real-time info on where your driver is when he is coming to get you, I might consider them. Uber makes it so much easier.
     
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  15. cvm

    cvm PFG, Picture Framing God

    Don't be an "Eddie The Bartender".

    The internal combustion engine (ICE) auto industry will be totally disrupted in about a decade. Self-driving electric cars are going to replace the internal combustion engine. There is no technological way that this is going to be avoided. We can debate about the chronology; there is no reason to debate about the technology.

    The technologies are advancing at warp speed (better batteries, more efficient tracking systems for driving, requiring only 10% of the moving parts of an internal combustion engine) and will converge, to make the internal combustion automobile obsolete. Nobody will buy a new one. There will be a market for used cars, but there will be essentially zero market for new ICE cars. The handwriting is on the wall.

     
  16. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    I'm going to try something over the next few weeks: gatheringa up all my youth-oriented art, frame it all, price it below art.com, and see what happens. Tourism is increasing, my windows will be full of this stuff, and we'll see if retail can attract the art.com crowd. The price tags will indicate the art.com fake discounted price. The art is the stuff ypu'd find at eyes on walls.
     
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