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Trade Only Forum

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by Marc Lizer, Oct 19, 2002.


Trade Only Forum

  1. Yay

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  1. Marc Lizer

    Marc Lizer SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    The only way you can vote is if you also post a post about why you have that stance.

    Let's not argue with eachother. Just say what you feel.

    Also say about your past experience with the TOF, and with passworded fourums on other sites (do they work or not).

    It has merit and it has detractions.

    Speak your thoughts. . . . .
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  2. AnneL

    AnneL SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Amen, Betty! I have nothing to hide, which is why I registered under my own name. When I joined, it was so I could comment on the PPFA/PMA merger. I wanted everyone to know it was me since I had already been posting on HH. My opinions, right or wrong, are my own and I am already known to some of the other people on both forums. As an active member in the WPPFA, I wanted to let everyone know it was me. Why hide behind an alias unless you are not who and what you say you are?
  3. Less

    Less SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Being anonymous has its advantages. Most people do not say what is on their mind in mixed company. I like to be able to express my thoughts about a business without having to be concerned whether they do not like what I have to say, and chose not to do business with me. I like to be able to share design ideas, prices, and be honest about my practices and mistakes so that others can learn from them.

    I think we should try it as a test, but how you manage who gets in and who does not, will be a task. Part of the reason the vendor forum is so light is due to the fact that they feel they cannot speak their minds for many of the same reasons we do, including divulging private information to competitors. I don’t see a problem with sharing pricing in the open, because the public will also see how difficult the business can be, and how much is involved.

    This new forum will excluded those who need it the most. The Newbie’s, Wannabie’s, and I’m sure some home-based framers without legitimate businesses.

    In general, I don’t think that many Grumblers who don’t have an interest in this business will stick around too long, before they get bored. If you stick around here long enough, it’s not too difficult to figure out who has our industries best interests in mind and those who have nothing better to do.

    If anyone really has an interest in who I am, all you have to do is email me, tell me who you are, and what your interests are, as several Grumblers have already done. I will be all too happy to give you my name, business name, phone number, website, and what ever else you want to know. Just please respect if I choose to remain anonymous.

    I will vote yes. If you choose to create this forum, then I feel it is imperative that our true identities be known, otherwise it will not be any different than the Grumble already is - just exclusive. It will be very interesting to see how it changes what we have to say between forums.
  4. North Framer

    North Framer CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    My point in first suggesting 'trade only' (under the Framer Select discussion) was so private info would remain in the realm of those who can use it for their advantage, and who can understand the why behind discussing mark-ups, etc. I personally don't think cost of materials is any customer's business when they cannot understand the concept of overhead, break-even points, and other fiancial matters.
    To first register as a member of the Grumble, perhaps a little better screening info should be applied, like an email from your major supplier to confirm your validity.
    Otherwise, every registered member should be required to post their store location(s), business tax # etc. in their first posting.
    Just my two cents worth (Canadian cents, not sense.)
    Steve Potosky, Art of the North, Superior Custom Framing, 111 1/2 S. May Street, Thunder Bay, Ont. Canada P7E 1A9, 807-623-5752, www.artofthenorth.com (site currently down for redesign).
    P.S. I am editing this to add this PS. I just stepped out to put the filet mignon on the BBQ and it is starting to snow! Enjoy your warmer weather south of here!!
  5. Marc Lizer

    Marc Lizer SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    If you could cut and paste your post to the new topic, that'd be great.

    As well as re-vote.
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