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Training/Seminar Recommendations

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Hello all,
As a novice I have been investigating maybe taking some formal training. Can you recommend a school or program that would be beneficial? I heard of TC Moulding BASICS, but that seems to be extinct. What can you all recommend, or is it even worth my time. I’m interested in the hands on aspects as well as the business end of things. I am very good with my hands and gave learned a lot already, but I want to cover all of my bases. Thanks in advance.
Steve
 
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FramerInTraining

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
What exactly do you need training in?
 

Paul Cascio

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I'm sure we'll be offering classes in the Spring. The DVDs are available from our website.
 

Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Since you're a novice in need of framing education, I suggest you consider attending the WCAF-Expo/National Conference/PPFA Convention in Las Vegas in January. The best selection of topics, the best content, and the best instructors will be there. Three days and $1,000-$2,000 cost is worth the investment if you can go.
 

DVieau2

PFG, Picture Framing God
I agree with Jim Miller.

I would also say that the knowledge gained and specials on buying will more than offset the cost so you will get your money back!
Take lots of classes and hit the Trade show hard. Oh yeah, have some fun.
 

alacrity8

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
I want to cover all of my bases.
I don't think that it is possible to cover all of the bases. That is why it is very helpful to have a group of experienced people to get ideas from.

I would agree with Jim, and others, that going to the WCAF Expo would be a good start.
There also may be a closer PPFA chapter.
The New England chapter is located in Massachusetts. https://neppfa.wildapricot.org
They have done smaller events in the past, though none are currently listed.

Brian
 

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Thank you all for he great input!!
Does anyone know if TC Moulding still offers their B.A.S.I.C.S class? I have found classes offered by Picture Framing School.com and ABC School of Picture Framing... are there any others I can look into? Thank you.
 

Paul Cascio

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Since you're a novice in need of framing education, I suggest you consider attending the WCAF-Expo/National Conference/PPFA Convention in Las Vegas in January. The best selection of topics, the best content, and the best instructors will be there. Three days and $1,000-$2,000 cost is worth the investment if you can go.
Stephen, you should always compare your options and then make the decision that's best for you. If you want hands-on learning, and a comprehensive experience with a low student to instructor ratio, I think you'll like the APFA's 3-day boot camps. Want a low cost, risk-free sample? Start with our 2-DVD set, "How to Start a Successful Picture Framing Business," it comes with a no-risk money back satisfaction guarantee. It will give you an opportunity to experience our instructional style and quality.

I'd also be wary of Jim Miller's claims of "best" since he's tooting his own horn without disclosing it. Do a search on this forum, and you'll see that he and his "best pals" have a long history of this. BTW, I would wholeheartedly recommend that you watch one of Jim Miller's videos too.

The American Picture Framing Academy is entering it's twentieth year as the industry's largest school. We fill most of our classes, and we respect your right to compare, and choose what's really best for you.
 
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wvframer

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
New England PPFA has an event scheduled June 9-10, 2019 in Worchester, MA. There will be 20 classes over the 2 days from nationally recognized instructors. Basic cost for registration is $225. If you are in the NE area, the bonus would be leaving with lots of friends that are geographically near to you. There are more details including a list of instructors and classes here: https://neppfa.wildapricot.org/event-3033520.

I have had the good fortune to work with a number of the members of NEPPFA over the years and have always been impressed with their professionalism and friendliness.
 

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
New England PPFA has an event scheduled June 9-10, 2019 in Worchester, MA. There will be 20 classes over the 2 days from nationally recognized instructors. Basic cost for registration is $225. If you are in the NE area, the bonus would be leaving with lots of friends that are geographically near to you. There are more details including a list of instructors and classes here: https://neppfa.wildapricot.org/event-3033520.

I have had the good fortune to work with a number of the members of NEPPFA over the years and have always been impressed with their professionalism and friendliness.
Thanks, but unless that date is wrong, that event has already passed - last Spring. I am keeping on eye on their site for future events. Steve
 

Pat Murphey

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I strongly recommend a first step attending a hands on training course like Paul Cascio's. It's important to familiarize yourself with the actual operation of framing tools while getting training in the basics of opening a framing business. I did exactly that 24 years ago a school run by one of the major framing suppliers. While I was an experienced woodworker and model builder, the concentrated hands on training with tools used in framing was invaluable.
 

Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
...I'd also be wary of Jim Miller's claims of "best" since he's tooting his own horn without disclosing it. Do a search on this forum...
For the record...
The educators and the classes offered at the Las Vegas WCAF Expo/National Conference/PPFA Convention are professional, thoroughly vetted, and rated by the attendees, making this the "best" offering of framing and business education available in the United States, and some would argue that it's the best in the world.

Also for the record, my comments did not mention me or my classes. No horn-tooting whatsoever, because it's not about me or my classes in particular.

Paul Cascio suggests searching the archives of this forum, and it's a good suggestion. A treasure trove of useful information resides therein, but I suggest disregarding disparaging remarks from people stirring discord.

Educational opportunities for framers are limited these days, so it pays to take advantage of every opportunity that you can, including private schools and mentoring, as well as the major educational events.

Best wishes for a prosperous framing career.
 

Cliff Wilson

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Thanks, but unless that date is wrong, that event has already passed - last Spring. I am keeping on eye on their site for future events. Steve
Next years FRAMECON 2020 will be June 7, 8. We've reserved another classroom and more floor space for vendor exhibits. This past event had 21 classes and 13 instructors! We had 35 vendors and about 200 framers networking and enjoying themselves. We have a great time!

We try to provide a mix of hands on and business classes, but if there is something specific, maybe we can get it scheduled.

Maine may be a bit far from me in Worcester, but you are always welcome to visit my shop and ask questions.

We also have a one day/night event coming up October 28 in Portsmouth, NH. The topics are more business related, like insurance, and other business needs. But, it wouldn't hurt to come bump shoulders with other framers. Register for our NEPPFA emails at NEPPFA.com
 

Stephen Enggass

True Grumbler
Next years FRAMECON 2020 will be June 7, 8. We've reserved another classroom and more floor space for vendor exhibits. This past event had 21 classes and 13 instructors! We had 35 vendors and about 200 framers networking and enjoying themselves. We have a great time!

We try to provide a mix of hands on and business classes, but if there is something specific, maybe we can get it scheduled.

Maine may be a bit far from me in Worcester, but you are always welcome to visit my shop and ask questions.

We also have a one day/night event coming up October 28 in Portsmouth, NH. The topics are more business related, like insurance, and other business needs. But, it wouldn't hurt to come bump shoulders with other framers. Register for our NEPPFA emails at NEPPFA.com
Worcester is not too far at all. I plan on attending. Will there be more info regarding FRAMECON on the NEPPFA site soon?
Thanks Cliff.
 

Cliff Wilson

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Worcester is not too far at all. I plan on attending. Will there be more info regarding FRAMECON on the NEPPFA site soon?
Thanks Cliff.
<sigh> if I get to it. Classes won't be available until around March. But, I can say we've already got some great instructors lined up.
 

Bob Carter

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I think all of the options ought to be considered. Paul has been around a long time with great success and he is probably a good first step for 'hands on' instruction. The shows, all of them, are 'must do'. You get to pick those areas that appeal to you as well as those that you need to expand your abilities. I feel the absolute greatest benefit of the shows is the personal interaction with other framers. The ability to go up and ask a Jim Miller a 'one on one' question is like asking (and getting) advice on your putting from Tiger Woods-priceless

lastly, my opinion, make sure you factor in some good biz classes; can't speak to quality any longer.

what i will say is I have met many competent framers running their biz; but, much fewer of them as competent biz operators that frame. Easily the most overlooked partof the 'education' spectrum
 

wvframer

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Thanks, but unless that date is wrong, that event has already passed - last Spring. I am keeping on eye on their site for future events. Steve
Good Grief! I am sorry for posting erroneous information. I thought I was looking at plans for 2020. Copy and paste is not always my friend. I see Cliff has posted correct information.
 

Paul Cascio

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Stephen, we've got classes coming up in Daytona Beach (Dec 6-8) and Las Vegas (Jan 24-26) if you want to get out of Maine for few days.
 

bobtnailer

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Stephen, I'll tell you from my own experience that going to the WCAF show is WONDERFUL for a newbie. I haven't gotten to go for the last couple of years, and I don't know that I'll make the 2020 show (I have another trade show in Vegas right after WCAF), but I ***WILL*** go the following year.

Also from my it-pains-me-to-say-it file is this sage advice: Register for Jim Miller's seminars EARLY. They fill up, and you will NOT be able to go without being registered. Trust me....I tried everything from saying "pretty please" to calling in a bomb threat (okay, I didn't really do that), and I didn't get in. Lesson learned.

I don't have enough personal experience to testify to the "best" statements about Mr. Miller and his training, but I CAN say that every.single.person who mentioned basic seminars to me told me to get in his classes. I have some of his books, and they're wonderful....but I learn better by seeing and doing.
 

Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
...Also from my it-pains-me-to-say-it file is this sage advice: Register for Jim Miller's seminars EARLY. They fill up, and you will NOT be able to go without being registered. ..
Thanks for your kind words, bobtnailer.

Stephen:
Just to put things into perspective, I'm only one of the dozens of educators presenting classes at the WCAF Expo/National Conference/PPFA Convention in Las Vegas every year. Some classes are more popular than others, and they tend to sell out early - some within just a few days after registration opens - but all of them are well-vetted and recommended.
 

FramerCat

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Since he won't toot his own horn, I'd suggest checking out Jim Miller's videos at Framing Academy by Artglass. I also have Paul Cascio's video which is excellent as well. They are both really good guys.

Ed
 
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