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Uniframes . . . DISCONTINUED!

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by Andrew Lenz Jr., Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Andrew Lenz Jr.

    Andrew Lenz Jr. MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I don't know about anyone else, but our store has sold Uniframes for over 40 years. I learned today that Eubank's manufacturer will no longer make the clips for Eubank, so Eubank is discontinuing all of their products.

    Moore makes Gallery Clips, so that may be where all the customers will have to turn.

    End of an era.

    Andrew
     
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  2. Terry Hart cpf

    Terry Hart cpf SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    About time!
     
  3. Philliam Phulgor

    Philliam Phulgor CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    I am quesstimating I've used the UNI-20's and UNI-40 close to 20,000 times (and hated 20,000!!!). Good riddance.
     
  4. Andrew Lenz Jr.

    Andrew Lenz Jr. MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Granted, not my favorite, but filled a niche for starving artists putting up shows on a tight budget.

    Andrew
     
  5. Bob Carter

    Bob Carter SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I must be living in a parallel universe. Recently there was a thread where a framer told a client togoto WalMart. Now,a framer sells 20,000 of a unit and is happy that he can't sell them
    No idea what period of time, but suppose 20 years. That's 1000 a year.

    my concern would be 1.how many customers may I lose and 2. how will I make up that loss of revenue:eek:

    I sure wouldn't be breaking into my 'happy dance'
     
  6. Philliam Phulgor

    Philliam Phulgor CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    These days I only sell 2 - 10 per year. The big numbers were in the late '70's and throughout the 1980's. We'd get an order for one at a time and then a gallery or an artist or a company for 100 or 200 at a time. That frame shop closed years ago but our local was in a $RICH$ city that afforded budget Uni's side-by-side with $1000 - $3000 orders. Still does.

    Refused to use plexi unless it was less than 16 x 20. Back then it was all regular glass and we always swiped (sanded) the edges, both sides. Swiping conservation clear or museum glass is doable but the results are sometimes iffy. Bought 4' X 7' (or was it 6'?) pallets of glass.

    Then they invented DenGlass :confused:, but that's a story for an earlier thread: http://thegrumble.com/index.php?threads/den-glass.71492/

    Still, your point is well expressed about customers and revenue. The kind of point only a sharp businessman would immediately notice, examine and plot a strategy to find more revenue sources (even if they're from a parallel uni-frame-verse) ;).

    Without an actual count perhaps I fudged on my guesstimate a little (like Wilt Chamberlain:rolleyes:) but it was still mass quantities.
     
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  7. Bob Carter

    Bob Carter SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    we sold them, not many, usually off the shelf and client took them home to fit. We had a store near ASU. Start of every semester, kids would come in for cheap posters to decorate dorm/apt walls. We stocked a ton of the 24x36 FC Speed Mount and mounted that sucker in 3 mins and gave them an adhesive saw tooth. In a weeks time we did a bunch probably for around $20; kids happy, we're happy, most ended up in dumpster at semester's end

    for us, all about satisfying another segment of our clients:) we just never turned down a profitable sale

    i hear you about Wilt:D:D:D
     
  8. bruce papier

    bruce papier MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    We stopped using them years ago. They had a tendency to break after a time. We ended up having to put frames (at no charge) on enough pieces that we decided the Uni-Frames weren't worth the risk.
     
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  9. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    We stopped offering them after we bought the shop in 2014, due to 'broken corner' returns. I still have several in the basement, and this afternoon, a guy wants to come see them.
    I told him the corners can break, but he still wants to look. I've been wondering how big Swiss clip frames can go. We rarely get people wanting them, but it would help to know.
     
  10. alacrity8

    alacrity8 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

  11. GreyDrakkon

    GreyDrakkon MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I'm glad they're out too, I stopped selling them when I noticed that over time they'd end up breaking, and that's just dangerous. Inevitably a customer would want to use it inappropriately too (put it on something too big, or want plexiglass that was guaranteed to bow in a month's time). Pretty much the only customers that wanted them were the ones who had used them before, even though they broke! When I pointed out that I didn't want to sell them something that would just break on them again and be a waste of time for them (as well as a risk of broken glass) they appreciated me not selling them something just for the sake of making a fast buck.
     
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  12. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I stopped selling UniFrames - actually threw my remaining inventory of them the trash - when a customer described how one fell off the wall, and the broken glass injured the family dog. If one of the kids had been under that UniFrame when it fell, there could have been a lawsuit.

    If you can say "I've never had a problem with UniFrames", remember that there is always a first time.

    Aside from the safety issue, selling the cheapest-possible substitute for my primary product, custom framing, seemed like an unwise business strategy.
     
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  13. bruce papier

    bruce papier MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Our Yeow! moment on Uni-Frames came when a customer brought one back because she had a Uni-Framed print over her bed and woke up one morning to find the print between her and her husband in the bed.
     
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  14. framerfrog

    framerfrog Grumbler

    For the past several years we've sold 10-15 per year - all to the same customer. She is involved somehow with 'the theater' and she brings in several Playbills each year to be put in a Uniframe. She probably has hundreds on her walls.
    If we lose her business, we won't go broke. If we can switch her to a real frame, we'll be better off.
     
  15. Philliam Phulgor

    Philliam Phulgor CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Well, Mr. frog, I'm sure there is still inventory out there on the marketplace.....but probably not for long. You might give her a call or send her an email explaining the situation. If she panics and freaks out about it, call some of your vendors to check on stock and if there is plenty available, negotiate with her to pre-buy a couple dozen or a gross and she will have plenty for the foreseeable future.

    This way you'll be a hero, maybe even offer to keep them on hand in your backroom. You can figure that out with her. You'll still get her business (mounting, glass, swiping the glass edges labor, fitting, whatever, etc.).

    This is, of course, if you can't convince her to convert to Gold Leaf Closed Corner frames :):rolleyes:;).
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2019
  16. The Village Framer

    The Village Framer CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    Just had a customer in last week who had a bunch of things framed in uni-frames ages ago and was handling them for some reason: dropped one on his foot, whoever did it originally must not have sanded the glass edges, because it cut through a tendon in his foot. Surgery and a long recovery, and he came in asking to frame more things in uni-frames...
     
  17. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    Now that's commitment. It brings to mind another topic, that being art hanging above beds. A local pastor once woke up, stretched, and knocked a picture off the wall onto himself. The corner landed on his eye, requiring surgery. Ever since, I've recommended secure hangers over beds.
     
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  18. framah

    framah PFG, Picture Framing God

    Especially for the mirror over the bed!!!:confused::confused::D
     
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