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Vivian will be missed


SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Just got a Decor issue with real nice spread on Vivian!~
Thank You Decor.


SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I have just found out about Vivian's passing and have just finished reading this entire thread. Wow. If memory serves, I first met Vivian in 1983 at the Frame-O-Rama in New York. I don't remember the exact circumstances, or what we talked about, but I remember being impressed with her knowledge and the fact that she was very down-to-earth. From then on, one of the highlights of the many frame shows I would attend over the years would be getting to talk to Vivian; and she always remembered me! She was the one who suggested that I take my V-groove book to PFM instead of Decor, and that resulted in a three-part serialization. When I thanked her the following year, she just waved it off. That's the kind of person she was. I also remember sometime around 1984, I was given a doozy of a project. It was a 2 lb paraffin heart. The customer wanted it floated an inch off the backing. I had no idea how to do it, and couldn't get anything to stick to it. I finally called the PPFA hotline, who connected me to, who else, Vivian. She told me that I should use a cohesive bond, as opposed to an adhesive one, because if nothing will stick to wax, then you have to use wax!. I ended up cutting three 1" sections of candle, used another candle to drip hot wax onto the back of the heart and used the puddle to stick the candle section on. (kind of like welding) Darned if it didn't work! I used roofing nails through the backing board into the candles to hold it on. For all I know, it's still hanging. Once again, I saw Vivian at the show the next year and thanked her and she just waved that aside, telling me that sharing knowledge is what we do. G-d Bless you, Vivian, you were one in a million!

John Ranes II CPF GCF

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Her name will be spoken for many years....


It surprised me to see this thread pulled up again. I surprised that you hadn't heard. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences with Vivian.

What didn't surprise me is that this is the second time her name has come up in conversation just this week. I was on the phone earlier in the week with Tim Franer (most of you know him from his exquisite framing designs at WCAF and for Nielsen-Bainbridge). We happened to be talking about presentations and educators within the industry and naturally Vivian's name came up with great respect and fondness.

Again, thanks for sharing.


Rick Granick

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Back in the 80s I once made a pilgrimage to her shop for a consultation. I took many classes of hers over the years. I also enjoyed chatting with her at the conventions. She was a model of professionalism and personality. One of the best things I learned from her was injecting some fun into business, which has enabled me to persevere and thrive at it for 35 years. Projecting the enthusiasm and love that we have for what we do influences the way our customers feel about the possibilities of framing, and helps create the kind of long-term relationships we need to cultivate. Vivian was the master of this.
:cool: Rick

Jim Miller

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Her memory and her legacy of educating framers will endure with the Vivian Kistler MCPF Scholarship Program.
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