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What is the best way to thin Cornerweld?

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I purchase cornerweld by the gallon and about 2 inches on the bottom always seem to get to thick to use. Does anyone know if I can just add a little water to thin it or would that ruin it so it cannot safely be used?
 
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Rick Granick

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I don't think I would trust it if thinned with water. Not for building frames, anyway. I buy the pint bottles for that reason.
:cool: Rick
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
I purchase cornerweld by the gallon and about 2 inches on the bottom always seem to get to thick to use. Does anyone know if I can just add a little water to thin it or would that ruin it so it cannot safely be used?
I don't think I would trust it if thinned with water. Not for building frames, anyway. I buy the pint bottles for that reason.
:cool: Rick
I agree about not thinning with water.

I suppose it can depend on how much glue you use and how fast you can use up a gallon.
We buy it by the gallon and what I do is take the gallon bottle and I rotate it from time to time until it gets used up.
I will take the bottle and store it on it's side for a while, then another side, then maybe upside down for a while, etc.
I will also kind of shake it up when I am refilling the smaller bottles that we use at the joining table.
We can go thru a gallon bottle fairly quickly, but I still shake it and rotate it.
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Thank you both. That is sort of what I thought but I had to ask just to be sure.
 

IFGL

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Hey Joe, why not fill smaller bottles like Niel form the get go, my guess is the thinning agent in the glue is evaporating as the glue is used up, if you split it all into smaller containers it should stop it happening, even if it's just three or four, we use dish soap bottles, the branding are different over here I think your version is Dawn, a tip I got off here and they work an absolute treat, just make sure all the soap is washed out.
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
Hey Joe, why not fill smaller bottles like Niel form the get go, my guess is the thinning agent in the glue is evaporating as the glue is used up, if you split it all into smaller containers it should stop it happening, even if it's just three or four, we use dish soap bottles, the branding are different over here I think your version is Dawn, a tip I got off here and they work an absolute treat, just make sure all the soap is washed out.
Hey, we use the Dawn bottles in the shop because of the cap that closes well and tends to not get clogged.;)
Also, the cap is attached (until it breaks off) so you don't have to search for it on the floor...
I even save the caps from the Dawn soap bottles that I use at home for extras.
I still will rotate the gallon bottle holding the rest of the glue to keep it mixed up.
I guess that I'm a "glue geek"....:eek:
 
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IFGL

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Hey, we use the Dawn bottles in the shop because of the cap that closes well and tends to not get clogged.;)
Also, the cap is attached (until it breaks off) so you don't have to search for it on the floor...
I even save the caps from the Dawn soap bottles that I use at home for extras.
I still will rotate the gallon bottle holding the rest of the glue to keep it mixed up.
I guess that I'm a "glue geek"....:eek:
I mean split the whole gallon up, like even into pints, because there would be less air in the bottles and less times open, they shouldn't thicken.

I do the same as you Neil, bring spare tips from home, lol.
 

neilframer

PFG, Picture Framing God
I mean split the whole gallon up, like even into pints, because there would be less air in the bottles and less times open, they shouldn't thicken.

I do the same as you Neil, bring spare tips from home, lol.
Darren, we may be brothers from different Mothers....:p
(Or, we're just Framer Geeks).
I have about 4 different Picture Framer shirts that I wear at work.
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IFGL

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I think I would probably put a drop of water in it and test the strength against some new glue, just to see if it does get weaker, not because I am a tight arse Yorkshire man (I am) but just to see, once that curiosity hits me I have to know :)
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I think I would probably put a drop of water in it and test the strength against some new glue, just to see if it does get weaker, not because I am a tight arse Yorkshire man (I am) but just to see, once that curiosity hits me I have to know :)
Yes, that is what I did. I haven't tried to break it apart yet but will sometime today just to get the idea of strength with watered down versus un-watered down. I'll let you know
 

Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Hey, we use the Dawn bottles in the shop because of the cap that closes well and tends to not get clogged.;)
I wonder where the Dawn Bottle idea came from? :rolleyes:
 

neilframer

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I wonder where the Dawn Bottle idea came from? :rolleyes:
Yeah... Where Did that idea come from?........:rolleyes::p
Hmm....
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Ha! How soon we forget, Joe.
Well, that Was 2015, we've gone full circle on that one haven't we.....:D
It's even gone International with Darren...;)
 
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Joe B

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Ha! How soon we forget, Joe.
Well, that Was 2015, we've gone full circle on that one haven't we.....:D
It's even gone International with Darren.
Neil, I always get a smile from you :D I'm surprised you found the post from 2015. I still use the Dawn bottles for my tables and underpinner, I'm glad to hear others have benefited from that post.
 

IFGL

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
It certainly has gone international, I have mentioned the idea to some other UK framers and it got poo pooed here too, in fact by my own framers as well, but they have to do as I ask and they love it now, I love it because it's a time saver and time is money.
Great idea thanks Joe! To those that poo pooed your idea well enjoy your blocked nozzles!
 

Rick Granick

SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I agree about the effectiveness of the Dawn bottle for Cornerweld glue. The glue does not seem to stick to the type of plastic they use, compared to the regular glue bottles with the red tips. The hole is somewhat larger than the typical spout, though, so you have to be careful to control the flow. I am also having good results with a basic plastic squeeze bottle I bought at Menard's for $1.00. It is more of a typical glue bottle format, and has a spout top that is slicker than normal and does not clog... plus its cap is attached to the top by a plastic band.
:cool: Rick
 
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