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Question Which do you prefer?

Discussion in 'The Voting Booth' started by PAckerman, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. PAckerman

    PAckerman True Grumbler

    Which offsets, the "Z" shaped clips used to install canvases into frames among other uses do you prefer, the clips with one hole or the clips with holes at each end?
  2. tedh

    tedh SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Absolutely, by far, without doubt, definitely, unquestionably, certainly, the 2-holer.

    Don't use the inner hole as a rule, but, boy, when they're needed, do they come in handy!
  3. blackiris

    blackiris SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    2 holes. I use them for more than just canvas stuff. :popc:
  4. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    While rarely used the 2 hole is a nice feature.
  5. Ylva

    Ylva SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    2 hole

    I don't always use it, but at least it's an option
  6. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Two hole good. One hole bad. :party:
  7. rhop

    rhop SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I don't always use Z clips but when I do I use the two holer. :icon9:
  8. Larry Peterson

    Larry Peterson PFG, Picture Framing God

    And for a contrary opinion, I'll go with the 2-holer. :icon19:
  9. Twin2

    Twin2 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    I prefer the 2 holes version as well.
  10. Rob Markoff

    Rob Markoff PFG, Picture Framing God

    While you're at it, how about a 5/8" offset? It seems they are made in every size BUT that one, and it also seems we need that one size a lot!
    skye likes this.
  11. Twin2

    Twin2 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Rob, you are absolutely right. I've often run across times where a 5/8" offset would be perfect!
  12. Julie Walsh

    Julie Walsh MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    How about a flat one with 2 holes. The usual flat plates from Home Depot are too long and the offset lengths are perfect.
  13. Framar

    Framar SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I like the idea of flat ones - I frequently turn into a smithy and pound them flat on my vise platform. But they have that lumpy look, no matter how I pound.

    5/8" would be great too!!!
  14. neilframer

    neilframer PFG, Picture Framing God

    I have also done the "smithy" thing.
    I take the offsets outside and hammer them to the shape that I need using the concrete parking curb stops in the parking lot as my anvil. :cool:
    John Ranes II CPF GCF likes this.
  15. freakquency

    freakquency SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    2 holes are always better than one! :kaffeetrinker_2:
  16. Ylva

    Ylva SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I use 'plumbers tape' , the metal strips with holes in them and cut them to any size that I need. You can bend them too if needed.
  17. shayla

    shayla WOW Framer

    THIS! Please!!! :thumbsup:

    And re the conversation about flat offset clips, why doesn't somebody just make shorter mending plates?

    These are available from United:

    Item # 2981


    But they're way long for the purposes of which we speak.
  18. Jeff Rodier

    Jeff Rodier SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Thanks Peter. I see the new clips have 2 holes in the new flyer.
  19. framebinder

    framebinder True Grumbler

    888 Mfg. has both 2 hole 5/8" and flat offsets.
    skye likes this.
  20. JWB9999999

    JWB9999999 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    For sure 2 holes. There's never a case when having 2 holes is bad, but there are many cases where having 2 is good. I rarely have to use the 2nd hole, but I've had more occasions to find it useful lately, especially with floater frames. It's annoying to have to drill a hole in my offset clips myself (or to pay someone to do it for me). I try to purchase only 2 hole versions of clips these days.
  21. blueeyes

    blueeyes CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    image.jpg I don't always use offsets, been when I do, I prefer two holes.
    dpframing, skye and framestudio like this.
  22. skye

    skye MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    2 holers for me as well. The first time I saw them I did squee with joy.
  23. Kev@Frames

    Kev@Frames CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    2-hole offsets. Rarely use the 2nd hole.

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