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Which Valiani CMC would you advise on getting as a startup?

Discussion in 'The Grumble' started by Umi, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Umi

    Umi Grumbler

    Which Valiani CMC would you advise on getting as a startup?
     
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  2. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Unless you have big production plans, I'd suggest buying the entry-level model with heads for 40, 90, and maybe 45 degree cuts; debossing (three sizes in the kit); and if you can swing it, the Mat Stylus kit, because it's more useful than you can imagine.
     
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  3. Umi

    Umi Grumbler

    What is the model name?
     
  4. Umi

    Umi Grumbler

    And what is a mat stylus kit? Why do you think it is useful? thanks.
     
  5. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I guess that now it would be the Future Plus is-150.

    The Mat Stylus is Valiani's kit of drawing tools.
     
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  6. Mike Labbe

    Mike Labbe Member, Former moderator team volunteer

    We purchased a new Valiani Ultra BC this year, with the no waste button clamp system and 5 or 6 different heads. I highly recommend it. The support has been excellent, and the 2019 VStudio software auto updates as new versions are released. We easily import designs from CorelDraw. US Sales and distribution are handled by Crescent Cardboard company.

    (We also have a Wizard 8000 that has been a very reliable and faithful employee for 10+ years. no complaints there, either!)

    Both Valiani and Wizard will be set up with machines at FrameCon in a month, and I'm sure they will both be running show specials. It's probably worth a trip out, to take advantage of the show discounts.

    Mike
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2019
  7. Dostie Bros.

    Dostie Bros. True Grumbler

    I know this is going to sound old school, but I have operated for 8 years at my shop only using an Esterly wall mounted cutter, no computer cutter. It is possible and something I recommend if you are just getting started and not expecting large volume. On the rare occasion there is a mat I can not cut I can get them from one of two suppliers cut for me. Just a thought if you are just getting started.
     
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  8. Umi

    Umi Grumbler

    Thank you. I was thinking about that too, just ask the supplier to cut them for me. Do you know if all mat suppliers cut them?
     
  9. wpfay

    wpfay Angry Badger

    You need to see if the suppliers that support you offer the service. Not everyone has the same suppliers.
     
  10. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Amen to Dostie Bros comment.

    A C.M.C. is a very expensive piece of equipment and could well double the cost of setting up your business. In a startup having that cash in the Bank could be vital in letting you deal with any unforeseen expenses or, possibly, a slower than expected growth of turnover. In the worst case scenario if your business does fail you would take quite a big hit on selling it second hand.
     
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