CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2
Why does PPFA allow the BB stores to put signs in their stores that says they have a CPF on staff? In my town they have no CPF except one that works in a different state. I don't think that's very fair.
It is different. I worked at both a M's and a JA's. At both they have a little multiple choice quiz you take and then corporate sends you a little certificate that says you are a "Certified Framer". Sometimes, if there wasn't much going on, your manager might let you use an oops frame and some mats to frame up the certificate and hang it up behind the counter.Maybe a BB store certified picture framer is different than a PPFA certified framer.
Of course they are different - one has knowledge and experience; the other has a certificate whose purpose is to deceive the customer into thinking they have knoweldge and experience.Maybe a BB store certified picture framer is different than a PPFA certified framer.
Turn them in to the SEC. You have to have a securities license to discuss future value of artwork. There was a huge enforcement effort of this in the late 80', early 90's because all of the framers selling LE's were touting them as investments.Here a competitor tells their customers that unless their print is framed by a PPFA CPF it will automatically lose it's value.
Paul, the gov't is currently looking at requiring minimum standards for any that use the term Financial Planner. One can be a Certified Financial Planner which requires minimum standards and membership. The certifying organization has no recourse for those using the term Financial Planner.As an example, If you were to call yourself a Michaels Certified Public Accountant, do you think the CPA’s (another certification mark) would let you get away with it? Not a chance.
PPFA does not "allow" them to do that.Why does PPFA allow the BB stores to put signs in their stores that says they have a CPF on staff?
Jeff,Jeff Rodier said:Paul, my bet is that at least one business created some type of certification for their company framers before PPFA.
Not sure if you're serious or not, but refer to below:So you're sayin' that if someone's earned their CPF designation while working at 'Joe's Frame Shack' and then leaves to go work for Michael's, the PPFA won't allow them to display their CPF certification...?
Just to clarify one point: the CPF or MCPF designations apply to an individual only, not an entire shop or other organization. A store may advertise that they have a Certified Picture Framer or a Master Certified Picture Framer on staff, but it still only refers to the person or persons holding the designation.
Don't know. That was before my time.Didn't yer boys have an in-house designation for framers back in the Jim Nye days...?
Jim was referring to the CPF designation, not the use of "Certified Framer".cvm said:So you're sayin' that if someone's earned their CPF designation while working at 'Joe's Frame Shack' and then leaves to go work for Michael's, the PPFA won't allow them to display their CPF certification...?
PPFA does not "allow" them to do that.
If you look at the context I think you will see that Jim didn't mean "they can't do that because the PPFA forbids it". I believe what he meant was that people don't ask for permission of the PPFA to display signs, therefore the fact that a sign is being displayed does not by itself indicate approval of the PPDA.So you're sayin' that if someone's earned their CPF designation while working at 'Joe's Frame Shack' and then leaves to go work for Michael's, the PPFA won't allow them to display their CPF certification...?
Why would M's want to adopt the same CPF standard when they can get the same mileage with their own designation for which they can set the standard and pay less for the training?Has anyone from PMA/PPFA spoken with Michaels about PPFA membership and lobby them to adopt the same CPF standard.
Wow the non-glare glass on this certificate really sucks! I wonder why they didn't use masterpiece glass?Here is the pic of M's document. Oviously it is not a PPFA certificate, but I hate to tell you how many people tell me they think it's like my certifited one from PPFA. It's like they say "Oh, the framers at M's are certified too!". I also sent this to a person at PPFA so she would know it was not what I originally thought it was.