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wizard 8000 mat cutter jamming problem

Discussion in 'Software, Computers, CMC's Techie Stuff' started by Tony Johnson, Sep 28, 2018.

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wizard 800 mat cutter problem

  1. could be hardware or software issue

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  1. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Am hoping a forum member might have some advice on trouble shooting my Wizard 8000 mat cutter. When in the process of cutting a mat , the mat cutter makes a thunking noise which sounds similar to a head jam and i need to start over. The problem is intermittent as often it cuts without issue , because of this im having a lot of difficulty working out what it could be.
    I have tried uninstalling the software and reinstalling with new app and serial from wizard but makes no difference. Although when i open the software the computer screen flashes or blinks which could be a compatibility issue with windows 10 however i dont know that, that is causing the issue with cutting mats. Any advise would be greatly appreciated as im not having any luck with trouble shooting from anyone at wizard. I do have a small video of the problem that might help if needed.
     
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  2. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    Having the same problem, and it is costing me $$ in wasted mats. Because I can't replicate it, and because it is so intermittent, it would probably be a waste of time to call Wizard, and have them tell me to do what I'm already doing, which is to unplug and reconnect the main cable, and reboot. I'm reduced to holding a finger beside the Escape key when cutting to stop it from damaging the mat. As as you can guess, it never happens when I'm doing this.

    Btw: how old is your machine? My unit is just below #250, and is about 16 years old. Nice to see my rental has increased by $35/month, too.
     
  3. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    My wizard is around 12 years old and have replaced the box recently. BTW TedH, you can also press spacebar to cancel the cut, you probably know that already. Wizard did tell me to try a cut with the blade removed , and although the cutter behaved itself, its an intermittent problem so not sure if the problem would go away with the blade removed and of course I like to use the cutter with the blade in however would be interested to know why they suggested it. I really wish someone at Wizard was more helpful and supportive to their customer as i love their machine when its working and its a very costly and important part of our business.
     
  4. troyveluz

    troyveluz MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I was having the same intermittent problem a few months ago. Someone in the facebook Wizard group (I think) posted a solution by changing a USB power setting using the Device Manager that seems to have fixed my problem. I can not seem to find the instructions on facebook anymore. Maybe someone else remembers the instructions.
     
  5. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    A few solutions which I found useful for minor glitches were:

    Periodically unplug the big multi-pin connector between the control box and the gantry, brush all the pins and push both ends in and out a few times to make sure the connections are all good.

    Occasionally replace the cable between the computer and the control box and make sure this is as short as practical.

    Ensure you use an uninterruptible power supply to ensure the machine always has "clean" power (ie no electrical interference) at a constant voltage.

    Regularly vacuum clean the machine and around it to keep dust penetration down as much as is possible.
     
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  6. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    You can do a search within a group on facebook, so if you have just been searching for it by scrolling, you might try typing USB or other relevant keywords into the search box at left on the group's fb page.

    I was also going to suggest unplugging/replugging the big black cable, as that usually solves any quirky behavior problems my 8000 has, but it sounds like you have tried that already. I'm using an older version of the software on a Windows XP computer, so I don't have any input on the USB power setting... although it sounds like it could possibly be a factor.
    :cool: Rick
     
  7. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Thank you all for your response and support. I will try cleaning the pins on the multi pin connector and pushing them in and out , we try to keep our equipment as dust free as possible, but cleaning the pins might help. We have tried unplugging/replugging the big black cable without success. Not sure changing the usb power setting will help, as we switch off the wizard machinery overnight, however its a great suggestion and i will also try that in the process of elimination.
    The problem with the mat cutter error and loud thunking as things go wrong is intermittent , occurring around 1 in 4 complete mat cuts it is very difficult to understand what the logical reason could be.
    Thanks again to everyone for their reply and will keep you updated. Please if anyone else has had a similar experience i would very much appreciate your input. We in Australia have our a last long holiday weekend before the silly Christmas season begins so am taking the opportunity to do some fishing. Will reply early in the new week as to the results of trying these handy tips. Thank you again.
     
  8. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    One last tip: try turning down the speed a bit. That solved another problem a while ago. (It was suggested by Wizard).
     
  9. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Thanks Tedh, not sure how to go about turning the speed down but will do some research on it.
     
  10. tedh

    tedh PFG, Picture Framing God

    I'm not at the Wiz right now, but on the Cut screen, along the RHS, is a button with a blade and underline on it, meaning speed. Click on it, and reduce the speed by at least ten points.
     
  11. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Great thanks will give it a shot when i get to the shop.
     
  12. i-FRAMER

    i-FRAMER MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    also check there is no moisture in your hoses.
     
  13. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Thanks again Tedh , reduced the speed but didnt help but it was worth a shot. Thanks I-Framer, but no moisture in the hoses.
    Due to Wizards notoriously bad support for their product, i think we have reached the stage of cutting our losses and moving over to Gunnar or Valiani. However will miss the easy use of wizard
    but can no longer justify all the wasted mats . The annoying thing is , its probably something small but the Wizards have vanished.
     
  14. Dani

    Dani MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Tony, Your distributor in Australia is Champton Pty. Ltd. They can be reached at harry@chamton.com, website is www.chamton.com.

    We recommend anyone running Windows 10 with a Driver Pack to use a USB Hub to avoid intermittant issues such as stopping randomly.

    Plug the USB Hub between the Driver Pack and the computer, and that should alleviate the problem. The USB Hub helps support the older Driver Packs that have USB 1.0 with the newer computers that have USB 2.0/3.0 ports. You can find one on the internet or perhaps at your local electronic store under “USB Hub”.
     
  15. Tony Johnson

    Tony Johnson Grumbler in Training

    Thank Dani, Ive had some great suggestions from the forum so far, all from people with first hand experience. The USB hub idea would be the most far reached. I hope the suggestion is not
    Wizards answer to being helpful ☺ Hubs are usually low power sources for things like a keyboard and mouse. Dani, i do appreciate your input though as anything is worth a try.
     
  16. Pat Murphey

    Pat Murphey SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    I would take any advice from Dani very seriously. Dani has been a big help to Grumblers for years, As a Wizard insider and expert, Dani knows their products. You are dealing with an old model designed to work with earlier Windows and PC hardware.
     
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  17. snafu

    snafu MGF, Master Grumble Framer


    I would like to see the video.
     
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