Mounting Original wool landscape from Scotland

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A customer recently brought in an original wool landscape from Scotland. This piece is about 3/16” thick. I am going to float it and was wondering what the best method would be. I was thinking I would stitch it to a thin piece of 2-ply that is smaller than the piece and then attach that to the floater mat. Does anyone have any suggestions for how best to do this or any other methods that would be better for attaching this piece? I thought about stitching Velcro to the piece and then attaching the mate of the Velcro to the floater. Any thoughts, mates?
Jules
 

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I'm assuming the piece is felted wool. If you are worried about the stitching showing, you might want to try putting another piece of felt on a backboard to see if there is enough "tooth" to hold the landscape. If that fails, you might try pushing a number of short pins through the top of the backboard and push the piece onto the pins to take most of the weight. It may not work, but it won't do any harm to try.
 
Wow, that is very cool.

If you are going to stitch to a support board, I would use 4 or even 8 ply ragmat board for better support.
Will you be able to stitch in places that will not be easily visible?
Can you stitch through part of the thickness from the back, so no stitches are visible from the front?
I'd be concerned that too many visible stitches would detract from the appearance and could cause non-repairable stretched holes as gravity pulls that heavy wool downward.

The PPFA book on Textiles and Needlework suggests a number of options for float mounting various textiles such as;
-couching
-DCO
-hook & loop fasteners (as you considered)
-nylon tagging
-fabric sleeves
-a slightly slanted substrate/mountboard covered with fabric for support
-as well as other methods, or combinations of some of the above
Each has pros and cons

Perhaps a form of pedestal mount would work.
If stitching isn't too invasive, stitch to a second textile, then wrap that around a cutout from either 8 ply rag, or Artcare foam board.
I believe I have read about this method either elsewhere here on the Grumble or in Jim's books perhaps.
 
Ylva said:
Stitch the art to fabric (perimeter stitches with maybe some extra stitches needed in the middle)
Stretch it all over stretcher bar as you would for canvas.
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For extra support you could stretch that over a strainer frame with fiberglass screen material stretched on it.
:cool: Rick
 
I would do a combo of some of the suggestions.
Sloping the backing would take some of the weight off the stitches, toothy fabric over fiberglass screening, and a system where the piece can be easily removed for cleaning the glass o a regular basis.
Wool gives off sulfurous gasses as it ages that will cloud the inside of the glazing.
 
Bruce Papier said:
I'm assuming the piece is felted wool. If you are worried about the stitching showing, you might want to try putting another piece of felt on a backboard to see if there is enough "tooth" to hold the landscape. If that fails, you might try pushing a number of short pins through the top of the backboard and push the piece onto the pins to take most of the weight. It may not work, but it won't do any harm to try.
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Thank you for your suggestions and taking the time to reply, Bruce. The pin idea is quite innovative and makes sense. I would need to hunt for the right size pushpins—maybe tacks? I wasn’t planning to stitch all the way through the felted piece—just grabbing enough of the piece and using enough stitches. Appreciate your input!
 
Nikodeumus said:
Wow, that is very cool.

If you are going to stitch to a support board, I would use 4 or even 8 ply ragmat board for better support.
Will you be able to stitch in places that will not be easily visible?
Can you stitch through part of the thickness from the back, so no stitches are visible from the front?
I'd be concerned that too many visible stitches would detract from the appearance and could cause non-repairable stretched holes as gravity pulls that heavy wool downward.

The PPFA book on Textiles and Needlework suggests a number of options for float mounting various textiles such as;
-couching
-DCO
-hook & loop fasteners (as you considered)
-nylon tagging
-fabric sleeves
-a slightly slanted substrate/mountboard covered with fabric for support
-as well as other methods, or combinations of some of the above
Each has pros and cons

Perhaps a form of pedestal mount would work.
If stitching isn't too invasive, stitch to a second textile, then wrap that around a cutout from either 8 ply rag, or Artcare foam board.
I believe I have read about this method either elsewhere here on the Grumble or in Jim's books perhaps.
Click to expand...
I really appreciate you taking the time to brainstorm for me. You are practicing the Golden Rule….doing onto my piece as if it were yours to frame. That is awesome!
I was planning not to stitch all the way through—just grabbing enough of the piece and using enough stitches. I am going to use a 4-ply rag piece to mount the fabric piece to…I think I will add an 8-ply piece to it for re-enforcement. I was going to stitch the felted piece to 2-ply since it is thin enough to get the needle through—and then attach that to the 4-ply floater. But maybe, given another suggestion about stitching the piece to a piece of fabric, I will stitch it to a piece of fabric and then wrap it around a beveled foam core floater. That might be the way to go.
Thank you!
 
wpfay said:
I would do a combo of some of the suggestions.
Sloping the backing would take some of the weight off the stitches, toothy fabric over fiberglass screening, and a system where the piece can be easily removed for cleaning the glass o a regular basis.
Wool gives off sulfurous gasses as it ages that will cloud the inside of the glazing.
Click to expand...
VERY good to know that about wool outgassing! I am putting it in a shadow box frame so there will be some depth. Do you think it would still cloud the glass with 1-1/2” depth between the glass and the piece?
Thank you kindly for your input!
 
Ylva said:
Stitch the art to fabric (perimeter stitches with maybe some extra stitches needed in the middle)
Stretch it all over stretcher bar as you would for canvas.
Click to expand...
This makes a lot of sense to me as it would be the easiest thing to stitch the felted piece to. Might be a winner! Thank you for the great suggestion—I really appreciate it!
 
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